Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bis-09.txt
Glen Zorn <glenzorn@gmail.com> Fri, 13 July 2012 04:27 UTC
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On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 23:03 +0200, Benoit Claise wrote: > On 11/07/2012 12:24, Glen Zorn wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 09:09 +0200, Benoit Claise wrote: > > > > > Hi Lionel, > > > > > > > > > > Hi Benoit, > > > > > > > > - I could not find the meaning of * in, for example, > > > > > > > > [ CHAP-Auth ] > > > > [ CHAP-Challenge ] > > > > * [ Framed-Compression ] > > > > [ Framed-Interface-Id ] > > > > [ Framed-IP-Address ] > > > > * [ Framed-IPv6-Prefix ] > > > > [ Framed-IP-Netmask ] > > > > [ Framed-MTU ] > > > > [ Framed-Protocol ] > > > > [ ARAP-Password ] > > > > [ ARAP-Security ] > > > > * [ ARAP-Security-Data ] > > > > * [ Login-IP-Host ] > > > > * [ Login-IPv6-Host ] > > > > [ Login-LAT-Group ] > > > > [ Login-LAT-Node ] > > > > [ Login-LAT-Port ] > > > > [ Login-LAT-Service ] > > > > * [ Tunneling ] > > > > * [ Proxy-Info ] > > > > * [ Route-Record ] > > > > * [ AVP ] > > > > [[LM]] the « * » in front the AVP means that 0, 1 or more AVP scan be present in the request (or in a Grouped AVP). It follows rules used in RFC3588 and defined in RFC 5234 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5234#section-3.6). > > > > > > > > > > BC> Thanks for the education. > > > Is this so obvious to the Diameter readers, including the > > > newcomers, that we don't need to mention it? > > > In other words, am I the only one NOT knowing this? ;-) > > > > > > Hmm. draft-ietf-dime-rfc3588bis is listed as a normative reference > > in 4005bis and RFC 5238 is listed as a normative reference in > > draft-ietf-dime-rfc3588bis. My understanding is that one cannot > > expect to read and understand an RFC without having read and > > understood the normative references thereof. > > Agreed on the principle, except that, in this case, we speak about an > "*", which could mean something specific for this document: optional, > a reference to something else, etc... How about this? OLD: 3. Diameter NAS Application Messages This section defines the Diameter message Command-Code [I-D.ietf-dime-rfc3588bis] values that MUST be supported by all Diameter implementations conforming to this specification. The Command Codes are as follows: +-----------------------------------+---------+------+--------------+ | Command Name | Abbrev. | Code | Reference | +-----------------------------------+---------+------+--------------+ | AA-Request | AAR | 265 | Section 3.1 | | AA-Answer | AAA | 265 | Section 3.2 | | Re-Auth-Request | RAR | 258 | Section 3.3 | | Re-Auth-Answer | RAA | 258 | Section 3.4 | | Session-Termination-Request | STR | 275 | Section 3.5 | | Session-Termination-Answer | STA | 275 | Section 3.6 | | Abort-Session-Request | ASR | 274 | Section 3.7 | | Abort-Session-Answer | ASA | 274 | Section 3.8 | | Accounting-Request | ACR | 271 | Section 3.9 | | Accounting-Answer | ACA | 271 | Section 3.10 | +-----------------------------------+---------+------+--------------+ NEW: 3. Diameter NAS Application Messages This section defines the Diameter message Command-Code [I-D.ietf-dime-rfc3588bis] values that MUST be supported by all Diameter implementations conforming to this specification. The Command Codes are as follows: +-----------------------------------+---------+------+--------------+ | Command Name | Abbrev. | Code | Reference | +-----------------------------------+---------+------+--------------+ | AA-Request | AAR | 265 | Section 3.1 | | AA-Answer | AAA | 265 | Section 3.2 | | Re-Auth-Request | RAR | 258 | Section 3.3 | | Re-Auth-Answer | RAA | 258 | Section 3.4 | | Session-Termination-Request | STR | 275 | Section 3.5 | | Session-Termination-Answer | STA | 275 | Section 3.6 | | Abort-Session-Request | ASR | 274 | Section 3.7 | | Abort-Session-Answer | ASA | 274 | Section 3.8 | | Accounting-Request | ACR | 271 | Section 3.9 | | Accounting-Answer | ACA | 271 | Section 3.10 | +-----------------------------------+---------+------+--------------+ Note that the message formats in the following sub-sections use the standard Diameter Command Code Format ([I-D.ietf-dime-rfc3588bis], Section 3.2). > > Regards, Benoit. > > > > > Is my understanding correct? If so, then there is in fact no need > > to mention it since any reader cognizant of that requirement will > > already know (or could easily refresh the memory of) what the > > notation means. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Benoit. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Lionel > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > > > > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > > > > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > > > > France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. 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- [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bis-09… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… lionel.morand
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… dieter.jacobsohn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… lionel.morand
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… lionel.morand
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… lionel.morand
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… lionel.morand
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] AD review of draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bi… Benoit Claise