Re: [Dime] Conclusion for Sequence Numbers - was Re: OVLI: comments to 4.3

Steve Donovan <srdonovan@usdonovans.com> Tue, 10 December 2013 13:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dime] Conclusion for Sequence Numbers - was Re: OVLI: comments to 4.3
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On 12/9/13 4:34 PM, Ben Campbell wrote:
> On Dec 9, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Steve Donovan <srdonovan@usdonovans.com> wrote:
>
>> Jouni,
>>
>> I propose that we keep the name OC-Sequence-Number but that we use the Time type for OC-Sequence-Number.  It is misleading and potentially confusing to call it OC-Time-Stamp.  
>>
> I could live with that, although I would rather just define the expected properties of the sequence number, and leave the implementation up to the implementor. I assume your reasoning for not calling it a timestamp is that you do not want people to try to use it as a time base reference. If so, then we don't require any connection to a clock. We just need it to be monotonically increasing.
>
>> We might consider expanding on the format of the AVP to make it something like Session-ID, where it is a concatenation of the Diameter-ID of the generating node and a timestamp.  This might help the reacting node keep track of which sequence number it has received.
>>
> Do we need a uniqueness across multiple nodes property? If so, why?
Strictly speaking, no.  The thought was to make it similar to session-id
and potentially make it easier for the reacting node to keep
differentiate sequence numbers from different reporting nodes.
>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 12/9/13 5:37 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote:
>>> Folks
>>>
>>> Could we conclude on the sequence number vs. time stamp vs. something else?
>>> We got more important places to spend our energy than this ;)
>>>
>>> My proposal is the following (based on the original pre-00 design):
>>>
>>> o We change the OC-Sequence-Number to OC-Time-Stamp in all occurrences
>>>   in the -01.
>>> o We use RFC6733 Time type for the OC-Time-Stamp. RFC6733 gives us
>>>   already exact definition how to handle the AVP.
>>> o Define that the OC-Time-Stamp is the time of the creation of the 
>>>   "original" AVP within whose context the time stamp is present.
>>> o The OC-Time-Stamp AVP uniqueness is still considered to be in scope
>>>   of the communicating endpoints.
>>> o The time stamp can be used to quickly determine if the content of
>>>   the encapsulating AVP context has changed (among other properties).
>>>   This would be useful specifically in the future when the encapsulating
>>>   grouped AVPs  grow in size and functionality.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Jouni
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