Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC
"Shishufeng (Susan)" <susan.shishufeng@huawei.com> Mon, 09 December 2013 10:47 UTC
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From: "Shishufeng (Susan)" <susan.shishufeng@huawei.com>
To: Maria Cruz Bartolome <maria.cruz.bartolome@ericsson.com>, "dime@ietf.org" <dime@ietf.org>
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Fine for me. Best Regards, Susan From: Maria Cruz Bartolome [mailto:maria.cruz.bartolome@ericsson.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:13 AM To: dime@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Looks fine to me MCruz From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Steve Donovan Sent: lunes, 02 de diciembre de 2013 16:45 To: dime@ietf.org<mailto:dime@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Agreed, looks good. Steve On 11/29/13 4:04 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: Would work for me. - Jouni On Nov 29, 2013, at 11:48 AM, lionel.morand@orange.com<mailto:lionel.morand@orange.com> wrote: Actually, I realized that we are redefining something somehow already in use in RFC 6733: 9.6. Correlation of Accounting Records If an application uses accounting messages, it can correlate accounting records with a specific application session by using the Session-Id of the particular application session in the accounting messages. Accounting messages MAY also use a different Session-Id from that of the application sessions, in which case, other session- related information is needed to perform correlation. We could maybe reuse the same type of wording to simplify the definition: Pseudo-session applications are applications that do not rely on the Session-Id AVP for correlation of application messages related to the same session but use another session-related information for this purpose. The 3GPP defined Cx application [3GPP.29.229] is an example of a pseudo-session application. OK? Regards, Lionel -----Message d'origine----- De : Jouni Korhonen [mailto:jouni.nospam@gmail.com] Envoyé : vendredi 29 novembre 2013 10:01 À : MORAND Lionel IMT/OLN Cc : dime@ietf.org<mailto:dime@ietf.org> list Objet : Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Pseudo-session applications: While this class of application does not use the Diameter Session-ID AVP to correlate requests, there is an implied ordering of transactions defined by the application and except for the Session-ID differences pseudo-session based applications are generally assumed to behave like session-based application. The 3GPP defined Cx application [3GPP.29.229] is an example of a pseudo-session application. Would this suffice? - Jouni On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:38 AM, lionel.morand@orange.com<mailto:lionel.morand@orange.com> wrote: Hi, For me, "pseudo-session" refers to session-based oriented applications that do not rely on the session-id for message correlations but on something else e.g. user-name. So it is implied that the same server is contacted by the client managing the session. In the Cx example, the same origin-host will be used in the client-initiated requests after the initial exchange and the server discovery phase. Regards, Lionel -----Message d'origine----- De : DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Jouni Korhonen Envoyé : vendredi 29 novembre 2013 09:30 À : dime@ietf.org<mailto:dime@ietf.org> list Objet : [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Folks, [OpenIssue: Do we assume that all requests in a pseudo-session typically need to go to the same server?] The example here is in context of Cx. Not that I am expert on Cx (or anything) but based on the CCF the requests _may_ have destination-host. Thus, I assume that it is an implementation issue whether pseudo-sessions need to go to the same server.. I guess we cannot have such firm requirement. 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- [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC lionel.morand
- Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC lionel.morand
- Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Steve Donovan
- Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Maria Cruz Bartolome
- Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Ben Campbell
- Re: [Dime] open issues #1 in DOIC Shishufeng (Susan)