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Re: [Dime] [dime] #25: Section 3.1.5 Diameter Agent Behavior

Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Thu, 20 February 2014 22:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dime] [dime] #25: Section 3.1.5 Diameter Agent Behavior
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I am working on some a proposal for some new "overview of operation" language that might help here. Unfortunately, I don't know if I will have it in time for the meeting, but I will try.

On Feb 20, 2014, at 4:51 AM, Maria Cruz Bartolome <maria.cruz.bartolome@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Hello Steve, all,
>  
> The intention of chapters 3.1.5 and 5.5 is totally different.
> In order to be able to agree or disagree I would need to have a written proposal of the changes and an explanation of the reason for these changes.
>  
> Best regards
> /MCruz
>  
> From: DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Steve Donovan
> Sent: miércoles, 19 de febrero de 2014 21:30
> To: dime@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Dime] [dime] #25: Section 3.1.5 Diameter Agent Behavior
>  
> There has been no discussion of this ticket.
> 
> After further thought, I propose that this section be removed and the requirements for agents acting as reporting nodes for host reports be included in section 5.5.
> 
> If the section is kept then I propose removing the term "topology hiding" and use server front end instead.  If we take this approach then we need to have a definition of SFE in the terminology section.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> On 1/28/14 2:18 PM, dime issue tracker wrote:
> #25: Section 3.1.5 Diameter Agent Behavior
>  
>  This applies to draft-ietf-dime-ovli.
>  
>  There are a number of concepts mentioned in this section that are not
>  sufficiently defined.  This includes Server Front End, topology hiding SFE
>  and back-to-back agent.
>  
>  I suggest that we add the definition of SFE back to the terminology
>  section.
>  
>  I also suggest that we start using the term "Server Identity Hiding" and
>  not use the term Topology Hiding.  Topology Hiding has a meaning outside
>  of DOIC that does not fit for DOIC.
>  
>  I also think we should remove the concept of back-to-back agent.
>  
>  
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