Re: [Dime] [ALU] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02

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From: "Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay)" <maryse.gardella@nokia.com>
To: Dave Dolson <ddolson@sandvine.com>, Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com>
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Subject: Re: [Dime] [ALU] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02
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My mistake, it should be RFC 6733
Maryse

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From: Dave Dolson [mailto:ddolson@sandvine.com] 
Sent: mercredi 3 mai 2017 16:19
To: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) <maryse.gardella@nokia.com>; Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com>
Cc: Yuval Lifshitz <ylifshitz@sandvine.com>; jouni korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com>; dime@ietf.org list <dime@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Dime] [ALU] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02

RFC4282 is also obsolete, and RFC7542 explains the problems with it.
I don't think we should introduce RFC4282 at this point.

(And sorry, I don't see RFC 6377 referring to 4282)


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From: Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) [mailto:maryse.gardella@nokia.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:21 AM
To: Alan DeKok; Dave Dolson
Cc: Yuval Lifshitz; jouni korhonen; dime@ietf.org list; draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Dime] [ALU] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02

Hello all,

For the new AVP, no question: RFC 7542 should be used.
I have not the full overview of 3GPP specs used for reference to NAI, and based on:
- assuming the TS 23.003 (Numbering, addressing and identification) is an important spec to consider, the RFC 4282 is used
- RFC 6377 DBP also referring to RFC 4282
 
I would tend to agree on at least using RFC 4282 as the reference for the END_USER_NAI in Subscription-Id-Type for RFC4006bis.
Whether to directly refer to RFC7542, I cannot confirm whether this is acceptable or not.  

BR
Maryse

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From: Alan DeKok [mailto:aland@deployingradius.com] 
Sent: mercredi 3 mai 2017 00:47
To: Dave Dolson <ddolson@sandvine.com>
Cc: Yuval Lifshitz <ylifshitz@sandvine.com>; Gardella, Maryse (Nokia - FR/Nozay) <maryse.gardella@nokia.com>; jouni korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com>; dime@ietf.org list <dime@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Dime] [ALU] WGLC #1 for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4006bis-02

On May 2, 2017, at 5:51 PM, Dave Dolson <ddolson@sandvine.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alan.
> Do I correctly hear you saying we should replace all references to RFC 2486 with RFC 7542?

  Yes.

  It's 2017.  Independent of RFC 7542, *inter-operable* implementations just have no business using non-UTF8 identifiers.

  Alan DeKok.