Re: [Dime] Fwd: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC4006 (3329)
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Subject: Re: [Dime] Fwd: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC4006 (3329)
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Hi, The EDITORIAL change is correct. Regards, Lionel De : dime-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Schendel, Jens (NSN - DE/Berlin) Envoyé : jeudi 6 septembre 2012 16:19 À : ext Benoit Claise; dime mailing list Cc : xkiranj.1980@gmail.com Objet : Re: [Dime] Fwd: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC4006 (3329) Hi, I agree with the proposed change. Actually, the Credit Control Server may decide to apply immediate redirect for some other reason than zero balance (which is given as explanation in the RFC text), i.e. for some other advice like charge rate or so. I also believe that the original wording (even if not completed) would have been different if zero GSU were indented. So, pretty clear to me. Jens From: dime-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Benoit Claise Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:42 AM To: dime mailing list Cc: xkiranj.1980@gmail.com Subject: [Dime] Fwd: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC4006 (3329) Dear all, This errata has been submitted. While this looks right me, I always prefer to have a confirmation from the experts... Regards, Benoit. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC4006 (3329) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:00:03 +0200 From: Kiran Jadhav <xkiranj.1980@gmail.com><mailto:xkiranj.1980@gmail.com> To: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org><mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> CC: Harri.Hakala@ericsson.com<mailto:Harri.Hakala@ericsson.com>, Leena.Mattila@ericsson.com<mailto:Leena.Mattila@ericsson.com>, juha-pekka.koskinen@nokia.com<mailto:juha-pekka.koskinen@nokia.com>, marco.stura@nokia.com<mailto:marco.stura@nokia.com>, John.Loughney@nokia.com<mailto:John.Loughney@nokia.com>, rbonica@juniper.net<mailto:rbonica@juniper.net>, bclaise@cisco.com<mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>, Bernard_Aboba@hotmail.com<mailto:Bernard_Aboba@hotmail.com>, david@mitton.com<mailto:david@mitton.com> Hello All, I have reported an Editorial Errata for RFC4006. This small editorial errata in the RFC4006 is causing issues in some call scenarios where the end user is given an option by the Service Provider to replenish his credit if it is found at the start of a call that the end-user's account balance is zero/insufficient. This is basically due to mis-interpretation of the sentence in the RFC by different vendors. Please have a look at the suggested change which will help a common implementation of the behavior across all vendors. Best Regards, Kiran Jadhav On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:13 AM, RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org<mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>> wrote: The following errata report has been submitted for RFC4006, "Diameter Credit-Control Application". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=4006&eid=3329 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Kiran Jadhav <xkiranj.1980@gmail.com<mailto:xkiranj.1980@gmail.com>> Section: 5.6.2 Original Text ------------- " Note that the credit-control server may already have initiated the above-described process for the first interrogation. However, the user's account might be empty when this first interrogation is performed. In this case, the subscriber can be offered a chance to replenish the account and continue the service. The credit-control client receives a Credit-Control-Answer or service specific authorization answer with the Final-Unit-Indication and Validity-Time AVPs but no Granted-Service-Unit. It immediately starts the graceful service termination without sending any message to the server. An example of this case is illustrated in Appendix A." Corrected Text -------------- " Note that the credit-control server may already have initiated the above-described process for the first interrogation. However, the user's account might be empty when this first interrogation is performed. In this case, the subscriber can be offered a chance to replenish the account and continue the service. The credit-control client receives a Credit-Control-Answer or service specific authorization answer with the Final-Unit-Indication and Validity-Time AVPs but no Granted-Service-Unit AVP. It immediately starts the graceful service termination without sending any message to the server. An example of this case is illustrated in Appendix A." Notes ----- In the sentence "The credit-control client receives a Credit-Control-Answer or service specific authorization answer with the Final-Unit-Indication and Validity-Time AVPs but no Granted-Service-Unit." it is important that we add the letters "AVP" after Granted-Service-Units as it is not clear whether the sentence refers to "Not sending Granted-Service-Unit AVP at all" or "sending GSU=0 (Granted-Service-Unit AVP with value 0". Different OCS vendors interpret the sentence above in a different way, some do not send the Granted-Service-Unit AVP at all, while some others send the Granted_Service-Unit=0. And this causes problem in the call scenario where FUI+Redirect is sent together with GSU=0. This causes the call to enter a loop and terminate with an error. Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC4006 (draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-cc-06) -------------------------------------- Title : Diameter Credit-Control Application Publication Date : August 2005 Author(s) : H. Hakala, L. Mattila, J-P. Koskinen, M. Stura, J. Loughney Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Authentication, Authorization and Accounting Area : Operations and Management Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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- [Dime] Fwd: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC40… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] Fwd: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] R… Schendel, Jens (NSN - DE/Berlin)
- Re: [Dime] Fwd: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] R… lionel.morand
- Re: [Dime] Fwd: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] R… Benoit Claise
- Re: [Dime] Fwd: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] R… Kiran Jadhav