Re: [Din] [T2TRG] [T2TRG/Din] Discussion New draft for draft-hong-iot-edge-computing-00.txt

Thorsten Dahm <thorstendlux@google.com> Wed, 11 July 2018 13:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Din] [T2TRG] [T2TRG/Din] Discussion New draft for draft-hong-iot-edge-computing-00.txt
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Hi,

I read the document. What I miss are the solutions. If I pick one example:
Section 4.1. - Strict Latency. I doubt that many people will disagree with
you here, if you use a light switch for example you don't want to wait for
3 seconds RTT before the light comes on. But that is such a short
paragraph, it simply says that some IoT operations are latency sensitive.
Would you consider expanding on that giving recommendations on how to
actually solve the latency problem, or do you just plan to list problems
that you are currently aware of that folks who implement IoT could come
across?

Regards,
Thorsten


Am Di., 10. Juli 2018 um 03:43 Uhr schrieb Jungha Hong <jhong@etri.re.kr>:

> Dear all,
>
>
>
> We submitted a draft tiled "Problem Statement of IoT integrated with Edge
> Computing".
>
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hong-iot-edge-computing-00.txt
>
>
>
> This is the first edition and its purpose is to discuss the followings:
>
>    - New challenges of IoT by the environment changes
>    - Edge computing as an emerging technology in IoT
>    - Use cases of Edge computing in IoT
>    - IETF/IRTF directions for Edge computing in IoT
>
>
>
> We would like to start a discussion first on the mailing list before the
> Montreal meeting.
>
> Please take a look and give us any comments.
>
>
>
> We hope to get an enough comments for a side meeting in Montreal.
>
>
>
> I am copying it to DINRG as well in case they might be interested in this
> topic.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jungha Hong
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *보낸 사람 : *"internet-drafts@ietf.org" <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> *보낸 날짜 : *2018-07-02 21:22:08 ( +09:00 )
> *받는 사람 : *홍정하 <jhong@etri.re.kr>, 홍용근 <yghong@etri.re.kr>, 홍정하 <
> jhong@etri.re.kr>, Joo-Sang Youn <joosang.youn@gmail.com>, 홍용근 <
> yghong@etri.re.kr>
> *참조 : *
> *제목 : *New Version Notification for draft-hong-iot-edge-computing-00.txt
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-hong-iot-edge-computing-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Jungha Hong and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name: draft-hong-iot-edge-computing
> Revision: 00
> Title: Problem Statement of IoT integrated with Edge Computing
> Document date: 2018-07-02
> Group: Individual Submission
> Pages: 12
> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hong-iot-edge-computing-00.txt
> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hong-iot-edge-computing/
> Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hong-iot-edge-computing-00
> Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-hong-iot-edge-computing
>
>
> Abstract:
> This document describes new challenges for IoT services issued by the
> changes of the IoT environment. In order to address those new
> challenges, the integration of Edge computing and IoT has been
> emerged as a promising solution. This document provides the concept
> of IoT integrated with Edge computing as well as its use cases to
> discuss the benefits and challenges of Edge computing mainly focused
> on IoT data. The direction of Edge computing for IoT should be
> discussed in IETF/IRTF.
>
>
>
>
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>
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