Re: [Din] kick-start the discussion on DINRG charter revision
Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org> Wed, 22 March 2023 10:58 UTC
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 06:58:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Din] kick-start the discussion on DINRG charter revision
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Hi, I’ve been following DINRG since it’s first meeting. I do not believe the two topics— blockchain and internet centralisation— are enough alike to justify a simple recharter the DINRG. Instead DINRG should be closed and a new RG should be established to consider the work expressed in this new charter. The review process would be different, and I think that matters. -Mallory On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 05:00, Jens Finkhaeuser <jens@interpeer.io> wrote: > Hi all, > > well, to help get this going, I think this new version has two major > advantages: it's clearer and more concise on the one hand, and it doesn't > mention specific technologies on the other. As a relative newcomer, that > makes it a lot clearer what one can expect here. > > I do not have more detailed comments at the moment, but perhaps in further > discussions. > > Jens > > ------- Original Message ------- > > On Wednesday, March 22nd, 2023 at 05:53, Lixia Zhang <lixia@cs.ucla.edu> > wrote: > > We discussed about DINRH charter revision before/at IETF 115. Let's get > the ball rolling now. > > The current charter for DIN RG was developed in 2017. At the time, the > focus was largely on recent software technologies, such as blockchains, > that are commonly viewed as facilitating the decentralization of network > infrastructure services. Over time, the group has gained much deeper > understanding of the observed Internet consolidation. Therefore, we deem > that a revision of DIN RG charter is due. > > Below is a brief revision draft, likely incomplete/inadequate. It solely > serves the purpose of getting a discussion started. Please offer your input > on revision/addition/deletions of any parts. We plan to summarize all the > inputs to produce next revision before the DINRG meeting on Thursday March > 30th. > > Dirk and Lixia > > ---------- > *The Charter for Decentralization of Internet Research Group* > > Recent years have witnessed the consolidations of Internet applications, > services, as well as the infrastructure. The Decentralization of Internet > Research Group (DINRG) aims to provide for the IRTF/IETF community both an > open forum to discuss the Internet centralization phenomena and associated > potential threats, and a platform to facilitate the coordination of efforts > in identifying the causes of observed consolidations and the mitigation > solutions. > > DINRG's main objectives include the following: > > - Measurement of Internet centralization and the consequential > societal impacts; > - Characterization and assessment of observed Internet centralization; > - Investigation of the root causes of Internet centralization, and > articulation of the impacts from market economy, architecture and protocol > designs, as well as government regulations; > - Exploration of new research topics and technical solutions for > decentralized system and application development; > - Documentation of the outcome from the above efforts; and > - Recommendations that may help steer Internet away from further > consolidation. > > > DINRG will operate as an open platform to different technology solutions, > not limited to specific technical approaches. We expect DINRG to foster a > better understanding of the merits and constraints of specific technologies > with respect to Internet decentralization. > > *Way of Working* > > DINRG will meet at least once per year at IETF meetings, and may hold > additional meetings, either as standalone interim meetings, or co-located > meetings at technical conferences and similar events. DINRG may also > organize workshops that focus on specific research topics. > > DINRG will coordinate, and leverage synergies, with other IRTF groups > including T2TRG, ICNRG, and Crypto Forum RG. In addition, DINRG will also > provide inputs to IAB, as well as interested external organizations such as > policy makers and regulatory bodies. > > > _______________________________________________ > Din mailing list > Din@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/din > -- Mallory Knodel CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780
- [Din] kick-start the discussion on DINRG charter … Lixia Zhang
- Re: [Din] kick-start the discussion on DINRG char… Jens Finkhaeuser
- Re: [Din] kick-start the discussion on DINRG char… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [Din] kick-start the discussion on DINRG char… Melinda Shore
- Re: [Din] kick-start the discussion on DINRG char… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [Din] kick-start the discussion on DINRG char… Lixia Zhang
- Re: [Din] kick-start the discussion on DINRG char… Lixia Zhang
- Re: [Din] kick-start the discussion on DINRG char… Lixia Zhang