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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 01:36:44 +0900
From: "Shigeya Suzuki" <shigeya@wide.ad.jp>
To: "Jon Crowcroft" <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk>,
 "Thomas Hardjono" <hardjono@mit.edu>
Cc: "Melinda Shore" <melinda.shore@nomountain.net>,
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Subject: Re: [Din] Side meeting on financial technology
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As one of IETFer, I probably able to ask somebody to think about the rel=
ationship with the *financial* part in terms of deployment.
We maybe want to focus just on the technology. However,  even we want to=
 avoid the bound with the financial part, we may not able to escape from=
 that.

As I'm a researcher on the Internet technology, I seriously want to avoi=
d the relationship with the financial part of relationships, unfortunate=
ly, as you see, I'm involved in dealing with the technology :<

shigeya

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, at 01:29, Jon Crowcroft wrote:
> those sound like the right aspects of dlt to address - i'd leave the
> "finance" part of fintech out
> or we'll get into endless debates about fiat and stable etc etc which
> belong elsewhere...
>=20
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 3:22 PM Thomas Hardjono <hardjono@mit.edu> wro=
te:
> >
> >
> > Actually, the IETF has a crucial role in the future of cryptocurrenc=
y and DLTs in the general:
> >
> > -- Interoperability of systems has been a major concern (creed) of t=
he IETF since its beginning in the late 1980s. (Blockchain systems badly=
 need interoperability, IMHO).
> >
> > -- Various ciphers are standardized in the IETF.
> >
> > -- Upcoming ciphers and cryptosystems are discussed in the CFRG.
> >
> > -- PKI standards was developed in the PKIX WG in the IETF.
> >
> >
> > --- thomas ---
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  |   Thomas Hardjono
> >  |   MIT Connection Science
> >  |   http://connection.mit.edu
> >  |   http://trust.mit.edu
> >  |
> >  |   e: hardjono[at]mit.edu
> >  |   http://hardjono.mit.edu
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Din [din-bounces@irtf.org] on behalf of Melinda Shore [melinda=
.shore@nomountain.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:55 PM
> > To: din@irtf.org
> > Subject: [Din] Side meeting on financial technology
> >
> > Mr Shigeya Suzuki of Keio University has asked for a side
> > meeting on distributed ledger-based financial technology, which
> > will be held on Thursday morning at 10am in the Coller Room.
> > It seems likely that the room may not be large enough, and
> > I will try to find a larger space.
> >
> > He asked that I share the session description:
> >
> > CFP: IETF=E2=80=99s relationship to the future of distributed ledger=
 technology
> >
> > As several people mentioned in the past, it seems valuable
> > to introduce the way we have developed/are developing the
> > Internet technology, followed by working on the governance
> > of the Internet, to experts who need to discuss the future
> > of some new influential global technologies, such as
> > distributed ledger technology (DLT). IETF and other
> > technical communities should discuss openly to develop open
> > standards. For the deployment of the technology, also
> > important is to discuss multiple stakeholders from the point
> > of view of the social impact of the technology.
> >
> > Keio University, Georgetown University, and Japanese
> > Financial Services Agency have been discussing in the past
> > several months on how the experiences of the Internet
> > technology and its governance on the deployment, to find a
> > competent and reasonable way to developing and using DLT.
> >
> > As a part of the dialogue, the team mentioned above made
> > little progress at the G20 finance ministers and central
> > bank governors meeting in Fukuoka [1], to make financial
> > regulators understand to establish a multi-stakeholder
> > community in the DLT ecosystem is crucial. Please be
> > surprised by reading the script of the speech of
> > introduction of the panel discussion [4] held as the
> > official G20 seminar in Fukuoka [2], moderated by Prof. Jun
> > Murai, with Dr. Adam Back as one of the panelists.
> >
> > IETF community might feel distant from this topic; however,
> > if DLT will be part of the basis of a future platform on the
> > Internet, the IETF community might be responsible for the
> > technology. Moreover, the tight relationship with
> > crypto-assets in the context of application-level deployment
> > means that we should discuss DLT with stakeholders,
> > including regulatory agencies and financial institutions.
> >
> > Our team succeeded in convincing regulators that
> > conversation is crucial. We need to be part of the
> > conversation.
> >
> > The purpose of this meeting is to inform what is happening,
> > then starting a dialogue on the topic. We also want to find
> > some motivated souls to work on this effort together.
> >
> > Please come to the meeting.
> >
> > [1] G20 Finance Ministers and Central bank governors meeting
> > https://www.g20fukuoka2019.mof.go.jp/en/
> >
> > [2] G20 SEMINAR, G20 HIGH-LEVEL SEMINAR ON FINANCIAL INNOVATION, =E2=
=80=9COUR
> > FUTURE IN THE DIGITAL AGE
> > https://www.g20fukuoka2019.mof.go.jp/en/meetings/20190608_1.html
> >
> > [3] Opening Remarks: Taro Aso, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of
> > Finance, and Minister of State for Financial Services
> > https://www.fsa.go.jp/common/conference/danwa/20190608/01.pdf
> >
> > [4] Introductory remarks, Toshihide Endo, Commissioner, Japan Financ=
ial
> > Services Agency
> > https://www.fsa.go.jp/common/conference/danwa/20190608/05.pdf
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