Re: Machine Identity
Miika Komu <miika@iki.fi> Thu, 28 February 2008 12:13 UTC
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:23:18PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > >> An example of an Use Case is given by IKE (RFC 4306). Section 3.5 >> lists several possible identities for a machine, and there is not a >> clear unique way to define this identity (identities like ID_IPV4_ADDR >> are typically a poor way to define a machine on the network). > > After several years in network management (where the first thing you > like to have are stable unique identities), I have come to the > conclusion that it is hopeless to search for such a generally useful > identity. What works is all very much dependent on the purpose and > the specific situation, as others have pointed out before. > > And even if someone manages to come up with a good solution, people > sooner or later will try to circumvent it since in several situations > it is a feature and not a bug to be able to do dirty things with > identities. Hi Juergen, sorry, but I disagree with your opinion. Please give some pointers to publications that back up your conclusion. -- Miika Komu http://www.iki.fi/miika/
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