Re: this list is moving and being renamed as apps-discuss@ietf.org

James Galvin <galvin+discuss@elistx.com> Thu, 28 February 2008 20:38 UTC

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:37:32 -0500
From: James Galvin <galvin+discuss@elistx.com>
Subject: Re: this list is moving and being renamed as apps-discuss@ietf.org
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This list will be cut-over from discuss@apps.ietf.org to 
apps-discuss@ietf.org at 2200 UTC on Friday, 29 February.

There will be no visible change in the archive and it will remain 
accessible.

Messages to the old address will be forwarded to the new address 
but folks should use the new address after the cut-over.

I will announce when the cut-over has been completed.

Jim


-- On Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:18 AM -0500 James Galvin 
<galvin+discuss@elistx.com>; wrote regarding Re: this list is moving 
and being renamed as apps-discuss@ietf.org --

> We've been asked to wait a few days before actually doing the
> cut-over.  The cut-over has been scheduled for Friday, 29
> February.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> -- On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:19 AM -0500 James Galvin
> <galvin+discuss@elistx.com>; wrote regarding this list is moving
> and being renamed as apps-discuss@ietf.org --
>
> > The IESG has decided that all ietf.org mailing lists should be
> > in the ietf.org domain.  In almost all cases this decision has
> > no effect and is invisible for all practical purposes.  IETF
> > hosted mailing lists have always been valid in the ietf.org
> > domain regardless of their sub-domain.
> >
> > This mailing list is one of the very few exceptions, caused in
> > large part by the fact that the apps.ietf.org domain has been
> > delegated and hosted off-site, but the mailing lists were never
> > really delegated.  In addition, the new infrastructure enforces
> > virtual domains while the old infrastructure did not.  In
> > combination, these two facts are what caused the discuss list to
> > fail after the cut-over.
> >
> > We are aware that some mailing lists, this one included, are
> > listed in RFCs and other formal documents.  For these lists
> > backwards compatibility will be maintained.
> >
> > This list has the additional problem of being named "discuss",
> > which was not a problem in the apps.ietf.org domain but is too
> > generic for use in the ietf.org domain.  Therefore, this list
> > will be renamed as apps-discuss.
> >
> > The old archives will be left in place.  The new archives will
> > be created and maintained by Mailman, although they will not be
> > accessible for a short while.
> >
> > The IETF has historically managed its own archives for its
> > mailing lists.  This means we have home-grown scripts for
> > creating the text archives and the web archives.  The web
> > archive script uses MHonArc.
> >
> > We are going to migrate all IETF hosted mailing lists to use the
> > Mailman archive system, leaving all old archives intact.  Until
> > that change takes place, Mailman only archives will be
> > inaccessible.  We expect this change to take place within the
> > next 2-3 weeks.  Please be patient about accessing the archives
> > until that time.
> >
> > All subscribers of discuss@apps.ietf.org will be moved to
> > apps-discuss@ietf.org.  A notice will be sent to the new list as
> > soon as the move is complete.  This change will take place later
> > today.  You may want to update any filters you have that depend
> > on this information now.
> >
> > For those who "remember" their Mailman password for the discuss
> > mailing list, you will need to set a new password for the
> > apps-discuss list using the usual Mailman process, after the new
> > list is operational
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
>