Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06
Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Fri, 12 October 2007 17:30 UTC
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From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
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Subject: Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06
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On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 03:49:22PM -0400, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote a message of 66 lines which said: > I hope we are converging: My opinion is that, yes, the document is better and more stable than it was. I've read and reviewed -06 and I find it suitable for Last Call, with no serious pending issues. > (2) There are many ways in which the document could be more or less > radically reorganized. The "historical" or "rationale" sentences (such as "In retrospect, one of the advantages of ASCII [X3.4-1978] when it was chosen was that the code space was full when the Standard was first published") could certainly be more separated from the normative text but I do not see this issue as a serious problem. The text seems clear. > (8) While a few people advocated it, I can't see making the NFC > requirement a MUST. [...] Second, if NFC on sending is a MUST, then > receivers have the right to expect that they will see only > NFC-normalized forms on input. That assumption is dangerous, since, > in general, there is no way to know whether a sender is following > this spec. While I agree with the SHOULD, I do not think the reason given above is a good one. If we follow it, *all* MUST in RFCs could be changed to SHOULD, in the name of the robustness principle. IMHO, the best reason for keeping the SHOULD ("applications should send a NFC-normalized stream") is the argument about libraries that the application does not control.
- draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 John C Klensin
- Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 Frank Ellermann
- Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 John C Klensin
- Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 Frank Ellermann
- Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 Bill McQuillan
- Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 Tim Bray
- Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 Julian Reschke
- Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 Frank Ellermann
- Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 Tony Finch
- Re: draft-klensin-net-utf8-06 John C Klensin