Re: Form feed in Net-UTF8? (Was: FWD: Re: Comments onUnicode Format for Network Interchange
Bill McQuillan <McQuilWP@pobox.com> Mon, 08 October 2007 16:40 UTC
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On Sun, 2007-10-07, Dave Crocker wrote: > John C Klensin wrote: >> While I could live with the text you propose above, it seems to >> me to lead onto a slippery slope. Try substituting, for "page >> breaks" above, terms like "alert sounds", "visual emphasis such >> as highlighting or colored characters", or "flashing lines". >> FormFeeds are much more frequent in text, and do appear in RFCs, >> but the principles are, I think, the same. > Seems like the discussion is really distinguishing among different classes of > use, where each might be labeled distinctly and have variants of permitted > characters. It seems to me that this draft is trying to cover two separate areas of concern: 1 - How to express information (UTF-8, NFC, CRLF line-endings, no BOM). 2 - What information to express. Is it necessary to tell prospective users of Network Text which characters are allowed for their application? Wouldn't it be simplier to merely specify the encoding to be used and then mention that use of things like control characters should be specified within the protocol definition? Since the use of "text" occurs in many varied contexts, not all of which are merely for display, I think that alerting users to the problems of control characters and making it their responsibility to address them is sufficient. -- Bill McQuillan <McQuilWP@pobox.com>
- FWD: Re: Comments on Unicode Format for Network I… John C Klensin
- Form feed in Net-UTF8? (Was: FWD: Re: Comments on… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: Form feed in Net-UTF8? (Was: FWD: Re: Comment… John C Klensin
- Re: Form feed in Net-UTF8? (Was: FWD: Re: Comment… Martin Duerst
- Re: Form feed in Net-UTF8? (Was: FWD: Re: Comment… John C Klensin
- Re: Form feed in Net-UTF8? (Was: FWD: Re: Comment… Dave Crocker
- Re: Form feed in Net-UTF8? (Was: FWD: Re: Comment… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: Form feed in Net-UTF8? (Was: FWD: Re: Comment… Bill McQuillan
- Re: Form feed in Net-UTF8? (Was: FWD: Re: Comment… John C Klensin
- draft-klensin-net-utf8-05.txt (was: Re: Form feed… Martin Duerst