PP8: Asynchronous change notification for HTTP-based resources
Lisa Dusseault <lisa@osafoundation.org> Fri, 18 January 2008 19:01 UTC
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From: Lisa Dusseault <lisa@osafoundation.org>
Subject: PP8: Asynchronous change notification for HTTP-based resources
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Asynchronous change notification for HTTP-based resources Rohan Mahy see also: http://svn.resiprocate.org/rep/ietf-drafts/rohan/web-notify/ draft-mahy-http-change-notification-via-sip-00.html Many applications are interested in timely notification about changes of HTTP-based resources. For example: - appointments changing in a set of CalDAV calendars - web-based news or blog-articles updated (the typical domain of Atom and RSS) - my photo directory changing - a subdirectory changing in a large software project's source code repository - a change to the state of an Internet Draft in the tracker. Current practices in change notification involve polling individual HTTP resources, or polling some kind of HTTP "catalog" resource to see what resources have changed. Both of these methods inherently suck. The "catalog" approach at least substantially reduces the number of resources that need to be polled, but the amount of time to wait between polls is always one-sided compromise and rarely optimal for response time, network usage, and battery life. In many applications it is useful to listen for changes for whole subtrees starting from a specific collection. For example, registering interest once for all photos in my "family" photo directory or all source code for the "foo" project. In other applications it is useful to find out only when a small part of a single large XML document changes. I believe we need async notifications for these types of events. SIP and XMPP both have notification mechanisms (SIP Events and XMPP PubSub, respectively). Both of these protocols are appropriate. I used SIP to make a concrete draft [1] because I am more familiar with it. There is also a WebDAV-specific notification scheme described for XMPP in [2]. In some cases details about what resources have changed needs to be filtered for privacy reasons. For example, assume Alice has publicly-readable photos and photos viewable only by a handful of her friends. If Alice adds (or deletes) a new private photo, we want to notify those who were authorized to fetch the photo only, not everyone who asks to be notified when Alice's photos change. This could result in different notifications based on who is requesting them. We usually care about the state or status or these resources, rather than a detailed blow-by-blow about how a resource ended up in a particular state. However, sometimes we may want to track a version history for some resources. Regardless, the native representation of an HTTP-resource could be anything, not just files and directories in a filesystem. Changes to these resources could be caused by non-HTTP operations (such as modifying a database), using standard HTTP methods, or using WebDAV.
- PP8: Asynchronous change notification for HTTP-ba… Lisa Dusseault
- Re: PP8: Asynchronous change notification for HTT… Simon Leinen
- Re: PP8: Asynchronous change notification for HTT… Peter Saint-Andre