Re: this list is moving and being renamed as apps-discuss@ietf.org

James Galvin <galvin+discuss@elistx.com> Wed, 27 February 2008 14:18 UTC

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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:18:32 -0500
From: James Galvin <galvin+discuss@elistx.com>
Subject: Re: this list is moving and being renamed as apps-discuss@ietf.org
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We've been asked to wait a few days before actually doing the 
cut-over.  The cut-over has been scheduled for Friday, 29 February.

Jim



-- On Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:19 AM -0500 James Galvin 
<galvin+discuss@elistx.com>; wrote regarding this list is moving and 
being renamed as apps-discuss@ietf.org --

> The IESG has decided that all ietf.org mailing lists should be in
> the ietf.org domain.  In almost all cases this decision has no
> effect and is invisible for all practical purposes.  IETF hosted
> mailing lists have always been valid in the ietf.org domain
> regardless of their sub-domain.
>
> This mailing list is one of the very few exceptions, caused in
> large part by the fact that the apps.ietf.org domain has been
> delegated and hosted off-site, but the mailing lists were never
> really delegated.  In addition, the new infrastructure enforces
> virtual domains while the old infrastructure did not.  In
> combination, these two facts are what caused the discuss list to
> fail after the cut-over.
>
> We are aware that some mailing lists, this one included, are
> listed in RFCs and other formal documents.  For these lists
> backwards compatibility will be maintained.
>
> This list has the additional problem of being named "discuss",
> which was not a problem in the apps.ietf.org domain but is too
> generic for use in the ietf.org domain.  Therefore, this list
> will be renamed as apps-discuss.
>
> The old archives will be left in place.  The new archives will be
> created and maintained by Mailman, although they will not be
> accessible for a short while.
>
> The IETF has historically managed its own archives for its
> mailing lists.  This means we have home-grown scripts for
> creating the text archives and the web archives.  The web archive
> script uses MHonArc.
>
> We are going to migrate all IETF hosted mailing lists to use the
> Mailman archive system, leaving all old archives intact.  Until
> that change takes place, Mailman only archives will be
> inaccessible.  We expect this change to take place within the
> next 2-3 weeks.  Please be patient about accessing the archives
> until that time.
>
> All subscribers of discuss@apps.ietf.org will be moved to
> apps-discuss@ietf.org.  A notice will be sent to the new list as
> soon as the move is complete.  This change will take place later
> today.  You may want to update any filters you have that depend
> on this information now.
>
> For those who "remember" their Mailman password for the discuss
> mailing list, you will need to set a new password for the
> apps-discuss list using the usual Mailman process, after the new
> list is operational
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>