Re: Machine Identity

Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org> Thu, 28 February 2008 16:40 UTC

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Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
[..]
> On the other hand, being able to generate a lot of identities is not a
> problem: an entity which would do so would start at a reputation of
> zero, which is not its interest.

Trust..... OpenPGP ? :)

I always like to point to www.advogato.org/trust-metric.html in these cases.

As such, SSH-keys, HIP and OpenPGP are items you can use already for 
this, the latter already has trust built in thus seems suitable for your 
use.

Greets,
  Jeroen