Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Thu, 17 May 2007 15:58 UTC
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Lisa Dusseault wrote: > The IESG reviewed <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-crocker- > rfc4234bis-00.txt> for publication as Internet Standard and would > like to know if there is consensus to recommend against the use of > LWSP in future specifications, as it has caused problems recently in > DKIM and could cause problems in other places. > > Some discussion on this point already: > - http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg46048.html > - http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/discuss/current/msg00463.html > - http://mipassoc.org/pipermail/ietf-dkim/2007q1/007295.html > - https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi? > command=view_comment&id=66440 (in this tracker comment, Chris Newman > recommended to remove LWSP, but for backward-compatibility it's > probably better to keep it and recommend against use) I think it would be better to keep LWSP and recommending against its use. Running grep on various RFCs shows that this production is referenced in several RFCs, even in some recent ones. I don't object to Chris' idea to add FWS to the ABNF document.
- Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Lisa Dusseault
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Julian Reschke
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Frank Ellermann
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Lisa Dusseault
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Paul Hoffman
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Tony Hansen
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Tony Finch
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Clive D.W. Feather
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Keith Moore
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Frank Ellermann
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Ned Freed
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Tony Finch
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Dave Crocker
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Eric Allman
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Philip Guenther
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Dave Crocker
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Dave Crocker
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Douglas Otis
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Alexey Melnikov
- RE: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Bill.Oxley
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Tony Finch
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Dave Crocker
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… todd glassey
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Sam Hartman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Sam Hartman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Dave Crocker
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Tony Finch
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Keith Moore
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Frank Ellermann
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Tony Finch
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Sam Hartman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Sam Hartman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… John C Klensin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Tony Finch
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Sam Hartman
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Lisa Dusseault
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Clive D.W. Feather
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Lisa Dusseault
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Dave Crocker
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Keith Moore
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Frank Ellermann
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call John C Klensin
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Alexey Melnikov
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Clive D.W. Feather
- Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call Dave Crocker