Re: Machine Identity

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Tue, 26 February 2008 14:28 UTC

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Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:27:54 +0100
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
Subject: Re: Machine Identity
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:11:55PM +0100,
 Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>; wrote 
 a message of 47 lines which said:

> IMHO HIP (RFC4423) is that exact identity layer 

I feel the same way but it does not seem that HIP interests many
people?

> The big problem though is that actually getting programs to use this
> is cumbersome, simply because a lot of programmers don't know about
> it.

Via draft-ietf-hip-native-api? How many implementation? How could I
use it on a machine which has no HIP in its kernel?