X.500, SR/Z39.50 and networked information retrieval
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1991 17:49:23 +0000
From: Jill.Foster@newcastle.ac.uk
Subject: X.500, SR/Z39.50 and networked information retrieval
To: Steve Hardcastle-Kille <S.Kille@cs.ucl.ac.uk>
Cc: emv@cic.net, disi, wais-talk@quake.think.com, nic-interest@cicm.net, osi-ds@cs.ucl.ac.uk, rare-wg3-usis@newcastle.ac.uk, peterd@expresso.cc.mcgill.ca, yeongw@psi.com, clw, timbl@nxoc01.cern.ch, p.barker@cs.ucl.ac.uk, ghb@concert.net, bajan@cc.mcgill.ca, AWG@sunet.se, STGEORGE@bootes.unm.edu
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Steve: we seem to have been working on parallel tracks - so I'll just pull a few more people into the arena. (Steve's original msg. follows). First a quick bit of background. I chair the user support and information services subgroup of RARE WG3. (The other subgroup is of course Directories.) At our meeting in Zurich I tried to get people interested in talking about networked information retrieval, with only a small amount of success. Chris Weider was there and Tim Berners Lee (World Wide Web) and they were quite interested in setting up a list to discuss the broader issues. There is a great deal going on in the area of networked information retrieval, with protocols: X.500 and SR/Z39.50, and implementations: WAIS, WWW, archie etc etc etc. And the Librarians through the Coalition of Information also have an important role to play. All of these are nibbling away at the "grand problem" - but often without reference to the others. There are many associated problems, but just to name just one: X.500 and Z39.50 are each good in their own respect for tackling part of the problem of information discovery, searching and retrieval, but neither of them are suited to tackling the problem of information delivery. (cf. paper by Wengyik Yeong: Towards Networked Information Retrieval). I was not able to attend the IETF in November - but hoped that a working group would be set up on this. I would certainly like to see something happen in the March IETF. (I don't know how broad Steve's X.500/WAIS session would be.) Also I would like to see this discussed at the Joint European Networking Conference in Innsbruck (Austria) in May. There is a need for a "coordinating" or "state of the nation" list - ie a list to help us keep informed of what's going on in the various areas. There is already a list for archie, and now a list for the new Internet Anonymous FTP Archives Working Group. There's a Coalition for Networked Information list on Directories (X.500), another for WAIS - others for Z39.50 .... and so on. I'd like to see a list where we could discuss the relative merits of the various search and navigation techniques for networked information retrieval (NIR). Maybe such a list already exists - in which case - please could someone tell us. It would be extremely useful for starters if someone from each area could summarise the major points relating to their particular area - perhaps as follow: Topic: (e.g. World Wide Web) Mailing lists: Contact(s): Brief description of topic (including use and purpose): (about 10 to 20 lines) References: (papers etc pertaining to the topic) If this works, we would have an information source which would be valuable in itself. If we can collaborate to produce a summary every month or two - it would be even more useful and enable us to keep in touch with developments without having to follow detailed technical discussions on each and every list. Comments welcome - fire away! -- Jill Foster Steve Kille's original message follows: Subject: Re: "A Catalog of Available X.500 Implementations" now in a WAIS server Re: > > How about holding a BOF one evening at the San Diego IETF in March. > There will be Directory experts present for the OSI-DS and DISI WG > meetings. Would this be sufficiently interesting for sufficent of the > WAIS people to come? > > I am happy to co-chair this meeting with a WAIS expert (could you > suggest someone or volunteer?) > > I suggest that sometime before the BOF, we should have informal demos > of WAIS and Directory for those not familiar with both systems. > > A suggested list of aims of the BOF: > > 1) To delineate scope of X.500 and WAIS/Z39.50 and note overlap > > 2) To determine possibilities for integration and co-existence > > 3) To make a list of possible work items in the area > > 4) To determine if it makes sense to establish either a mailing list > or a WG > > > Steve
- "A Catalog of Available X.500 Implementations" no… emv
- Re: "A Catalog of Available X.500 Implementations… Russ Wright
- Re: "A Catalog of Available X.500 Implementations… Simon E Spero
- Re: "A Catalog of Available X.500 Implementations… Steve Hardcastle-Kille
- X.500, SR/Z39.50 and networked information retrie… Jill.Foster
- Re: X.500, SR/Z39.50 and networked information re… Steve Hardcastle-Kille