[dispatch] Re: Outcomes from the joint art and sec dispatch session @ IETF 123

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Fri, 25 July 2025 11:45 UTC

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Subject: [dispatch] Re: Outcomes from the joint art and sec dispatch session @ IETF 123
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Answering with no hats:

Early discussion with the relevant ADs will go a long way - reach out to 
them now.

RjS

On 7/24/25 5:24 PM, Debra Petta wrote:
>
> Hi Dispatch –
>
> I have a question regarding the formation of a BOF.  If my outcome is 
> to have a BOF, is it necessary for me to submit a BOF proposal as 
> outlined in https://www.ietf.org/process/bofs/,
> or because that was already the agreed-upon outcome should I just 
> start the formation of my BOF?
>
> Should my BOF just be through an online group discussion using the 
> assigned IETF mailing list or do I need to also request time at the 
> next IETF meeting?
>
> Thanks in advance for the clarification.
>
> -Debra
>
> *From:*Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) 
> <pengshuping=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2025 5:37 AM
> *To:* dispatch@ietf.org; secdispatch@ietf.org
> *Cc:* dispatch-chairs@ietf.org; secdispatch-chairs@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [Secdispatch] Outcomes from the joint art and sec dispatch 
> session @ IETF 123
>
> Hi,
> Please find a summary of the dispatch outcomes of the joint dispatch 
> session of sec and art.
> ### ART Topics
> 1. Open Cloud Mesh
> A WG-Forming BoF
> 2. RFC 4130 Specification Update (AS2 EDIINT)
> A BOF and make sure to engage people who are willing to do work
> 3. JSON Challenger
> To work with CBOR chairs and ADs to see the CBOR rechartering 
> possibilities
> 4. The agent:// Protocol -- A URI-Based Framework for Interoperable Agents
> A non-WG-Forming BoF
> ### Joint ART/SEC Topics
> 1. JSContact/EARL Peer-to-Peer Security Scheme
> CALEXT WG for the JSContact and JOSE or a BoF for the crypto part
> 2. Unobtrusive End-to-End Email Signatures
> MAILMAINT or a side meeting
> ### SEC Topics
> 1. Merkle Tree Certificates
> A BoF with a narrow scope and a mailing list before BoF
> 2. PSI based on ECDH
> Not clear now. More offline discussions.
> The meeting minutes are here for your reference. Many thanks to our 
> note taker Bron Gondwana!
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-123-dispatch-202507210730/
> Thank you and Cheers!
> Best Regards,
> Shuping on behalf of the joint dispatch co-Chairs
>

[dispatch] Outcomes from the joint art and sec di… Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)
[dispatch] Re: Outcomes from the joint art and se… Debra Petta
[dispatch] Re: Outcomes from the joint art and se… Robert Sparks