Re: [dispatch] draft-kaplan-dispatch-domain-registration should use a different method
Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com> Wed, 28 October 2009 15:15 UTC
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:15:13 -0400
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] draft-kaplan-dispatch-domain-registration should use a different method
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Hi Kevin, The intent of the draft, and part of the rationale for using REGISTER in fact, is that it's processing is NOT different. It's not different on Proxies, and it's not different on UAC's other than adding that tag string. It's not even actually that different on UAS's - it's real "difference" to the UAS/Registrar is the logical Database it updates, and the key it uses to lookup in that database. The "routing" portion of the draft, which uses the database and uses loose-routing to reach the IP-PBX, is different than how 3261 routes to the AoR database populated by REGISTER. But that's not tied to the REGISTER request method name, obviously. It's true that affecting a different database is a change for REGISTER. But if using a option-tag or header to indicate that is "more complex and harder to maintain" than using a new method name, then we're in real trouble. Because PUBLISH and SUBSCRIBE effectively do that with every different event package, without changing the method name, afaict. -hadriel > -----Original Message----- > From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Kevin P. Fleming > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:03 AM > Cc: DISPATCH > > I agree with Dale's points here rather strongly; when writing the UAS > code to handle requests, it is much more logical and straightforward to > inspect option tags and header fields when the purpose of doing so is > sanity checking and for subtly adjusting the behavior of the request. > When the option tags and/or header field values are used to cause a > different operation to be performed, the code gets much more complex and > harder to maintain. > > On the UAC side, I can't see how the need to take the existing > (pre-standard) code and modify it to use a new method name is going to > be any more burden than modifying that same code to conform to the > standard... since there are very few (if any) existing implementations > that already conform to the proposed standard. The UAC side of this > proposal is very easy to implement in either case. > > I haven't seen any comments in this thread about how the re-use of > REGISTER for a different purpose would affect proxies in the route path; > if a proxy has to inspect option tags and header values to decide how to > route a request, that increases complexity as well, which is avoided if > the request uses a different method. > > -- > Kevin P. Fleming
- [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-kaplan… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Richard Shockey
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draftdraft-kap… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Elwell, John
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draftdraft-kap… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Dean Willis
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Dean Willis
- Re: [dispatch] Domain RegistrationDraft draft-kap… Bharrat, Shaun
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Scott Lawrence
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Elwell, John
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Ben Campbell
- Re: [dispatch] DomainRegistration Draftdraft-kapl… Middleton, David (NSN - US/Boca Raton)
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Jamie Palmer
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Hadriel Kaplan
- [dispatch] Fwd: Domain Registration Draft draft-k… James Palmer
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Richard Shockey
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Ben Campbell
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Dean Willis
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Middleton, David (NSN - US/Boca Raton)
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Middleton, David (NSN - US/Boca Raton)
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Francois Audet
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Dean Willis
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Dean Willis
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Dean Willis
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… François AUDET
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Elwell, John
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Dale Worley
- Re: [dispatch] Domain RegistrationDraft draft-kap… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Dean Willis
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [dispatch] DomainRegistration Draft draft-kap… Brian Lindsay
- Re: [dispatch] Domain Registration Draft draft-ka… Dean Willis
- [dispatch] Using only a Require option-tag in Dom… Hadriel Kaplan
- [dispatch] draft-kaplan-dispatch-domain-registrat… Dale Worley
- Re: [dispatch] Domain RegistrationDraft draft-kap… Dale Worley
- Re: [dispatch] Domain RegistrationDraft draft-kap… Dean Willis
- Re: [dispatch] draft-kaplan-dispatch-domain-regis… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [dispatch] draft-kaplan-dispatch-domain-regis… Kevin P. Fleming
- Re: [dispatch] draft-kaplan-dispatch-domain-regis… Elwell, John
- Re: [dispatch] draft-kaplan-dispatch-domain-regis… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [dispatch] draft-kaplan-dispatch-domain-regis… Kevin P. Fleming
- Re: [dispatch] draft-kaplan-dispatch-domain-regis… Richard Shockey
- Re: [dispatch] draft-kaplan-dispatch-domain-regis… Hadriel Kaplan