Re: [dispatch] [AVT] Proposal to form Internet Wideband Audio Codec WG

Randell Jesup <rjesup@wgate.com> Tue, 02 June 2009 19:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dispatch] [AVT] Proposal to form Internet Wideband Audio Codec WG
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David Singer <singer@apple.com> writes:
>It would also be hard to 'object' to transport work being done in
>traditional 'codec shops' (such as the ITU and MPEG) if this goes ahead.
>
>A quality codec standard is usually backed by
>* testing
>* conformance files
>* reference software
>
>and a fairly rigorous design process.  When SMPTE took on VC-1 from
>Microsoft, I think both they and Microsoft were surprised by the amount of
>work involved.

All relevant and indicative of the level of work required, but not
disqualifying I think.

>FWIW, 3GPP SA4 is also a place with interest in codecs for packet networks,
>and has standardized codecs in the past.  Opening a new work item there is
>not trivial, but can be done.

Again, I imagine even getting involved in 3GPP is tough with many hoops,
let alone getting the rest of them to sanction a new codec not designed for
radio use specifically.  You can't even directly apply to join; you have to
go through an "Organizational Partner" like ATIS.  Not going to happen here...

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