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X-BeenThere: dispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: DISPATCH Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 12:59:44 -0000 On 23/10/2023 11:39, Martin Thomson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023, at 18:39, Mark Nottingham wrote: >> I would strongly suggest that we combine SECDISPATCH into DISPATCH and >> make its scope ART, WIT, and SEC. There is already too much venue >> shopping / confusion between SECDISPATCH and DISPATCH, and adding a >> third (which your message implies will be necessary) will only add to >> the chaos. Getting cross-area review is very healthy at early stages. > I'd have to agree. I've seen the same presentation at both DISPATCH and SECDISPATCH now on several occasions. And one occasion where it was the same topic at both of those meetings and another working group. A cross-area DISPATCH group seems like a good idea. (I would probably keep GENDISPATCH separate.) I like this idea, but this probably means multiple DISPATCH sessions during an IETF week.