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Re: [dispatch] [Sframe] Dispatch of SFrame

Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com> Tue, 16 June 2020 14:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dispatch] [Sframe] Dispatch of SFrame
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On Jun 16, 2020, at 6:53 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
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> Yes, I understand that the wire encoding supports signatures, but in the discussions I've had (including with Emac) I don't think that people believe that the latency/bandwidth/computation tradeoff is viable.

[BA] Depends on the scenario.  We are in a pandemic where conferences are being used for all kinds of things that we haven’t seen before. For example, consider a situation in which participants are answering a binding poll and the responses (voice or data) need to be authenticated. SFrame can handle that. PERC cannot.

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