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Howdy,

The draft mentions constrained environments, but there is no indication of
exactly which environments have these constraints and need these particular
semantics.  Many constrained environments would need more granular
semantics than 86.4 second time-of-day slices, for example, and so would
not be able to use this.  Can you describe the target environments in a bit
more detail?  Without that, it is difficult to know what venue might be
suitable (if any IETF venue turns out to be--this may be work better done
elsewhere).

best regards,

Ted Hardie

On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 9:41=E2=80=AFAM Thomas L=C3=BCchow <dorfzwockel=3D
40not4bflu55.de@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Hello DISPATCH,
>
> I am seeking guidance on the appropriate IETF venue for the following
> individual Internet-Draft:
>
> Route86: A Compact Context-Dependent Timestamp Format
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-luechow-route86-timestamp/
>
> Route86 defines a canonical six-character textual timestamp for constrain=
ed
> message transports. It combines a three-character Base36 calendar-day
> component, interpreted relative to an external reference date, with a
> three-digit time-of-day component at 86.4-second resolution.
>
> The proposal is deliberately narrow: it does not define a transport and i=
s
> not intended to replace general-purpose Internet date and time formats. T=
he
> interoperability question is whether independent implementations can
> encode,
> decode, validate, and order Route86 values consistently when they share t=
he
> same application profile and reference-date context.
>
> Would DISPATCH be the appropriate place for initial discussion, or would
> CoRE
> or another existing group be a better fit? If this subject is outside
> DISPATCH's scope, a pointer to the appropriate venue would be appreciated=
.
>
> My aim is an Experimental specification if there is sufficient interest; =
I
> am
> not assuming a particular stream or working group.
>
> I can provide a short problem statement, implementation notes, and
> additional
> test vectors if that would be useful.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Thomas Luechow
> Dorfzwockel
> dorfzwockel@not4bflu55.de
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">How=
dy,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">The draft mentions co=
nstrained environments, but there is no indication of exactly which environ=
ments have these constraints and need these particular semantics.=C2=A0 Man=
y constrained environments would need more granular semantics than 86.4 sec=
ond time-of-day slices, for example, and so would not be able to use this.=
=C2=A0 Can you describe the target environments in a bit more detail?=C2=A0=
 Without that, it is difficult to know what venue might be suitable (if any=
 IETF venue turns out to be--this may be work better done elsewhere).</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">best regards,</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-size:small">Ted Hardie</div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 9:41=E2=80=AFAM Thomas L=C3=BCchow &lt;dorfzwockel=3D=
<a href=3D"mailto:40not4bflu55.de@dmarc.ietf.org">40not4bflu55.de@dmarc.iet=
f.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex">
=20
 =20
=20
 <div lang=3D"en">
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Hello DISPAT=
CH,</span>
  <br>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">I am seeking=
 guidance on the appropriate IETF venue for the following</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">individual I=
nternet-Draft:</span>
  <br>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Route86: A C=
ompact Context-Dependent Timestamp Format</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><a href=3D"h=
ttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-luechow-route86-timestamp/" target=3D=
"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-luechow-route86-timestamp/<=
/a></span>
  <br>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Route86 defi=
nes a canonical six-character textual timestamp for constrained</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">message tran=
sports. It combines a three-character Base36 calendar-day</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">component, i=
nterpreted relative to an external reference date, with a</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">three-digit =
time-of-day component at 86.4-second resolution.</span>
  <br>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">The proposal=
 is deliberately narrow: it does not define a transport and is</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">not intended=
 to replace general-purpose Internet date and time formats. The</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">interoperabi=
lity question is whether independent implementations can encode,</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">decode, vali=
date, and order Route86 values consistently when they share the</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">same applica=
tion profile and reference-date context.</span>
  <br>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Would DISPAT=
CH be the appropriate place for initial discussion, or would CoRE</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">or another e=
xisting group be a better fit? If this subject is outside</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">DISPATCH&#39=
;s scope, a pointer to the appropriate venue would be appreciated.</span>
  <br>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">My aim is an=
 Experimental specification if there is sufficient interest; I am</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">not assuming=
 a particular stream or working group.</span>
  <br>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">I can provid=
e a short problem statement, implementation notes, and additional</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">test vectors=
 if that would be useful.</span>
  <br>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Best regards=
,</span>
  <br>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Thomas Luech=
ow</span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Dorfzwockel<=
/span>
  <br>
  <span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><a href=3D"m=
ailto:dorfzwockel@not4bflu55.de" target=3D"_blank">dorfzwockel@not4bflu55.d=
e</a></span>
  <br>
 </div>
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