Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events Protocol
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events Protocol
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Michael Toomim <toomim@gmail.com> writes: > Ah, yes, now I know precisely what you are referring to! > > These "events" are semantic labels for transitioning a state machine > through various states. This is a very common way to implement data > synchronization across a set of modules, but it has drawbacks: I was thinking about this a bit more, and sometimes it's about synchronizing state across a set of modules, but at other times it's about "logging", and whoever designed the system doesn't have a clear concept of state in mind. One should design in terms of state when possible, but my experience suggests there are many exceptions. >> My reflex was to say "Certainly, given the elaborateness of the XML >> system, there must be a way to specify that!", though I know *nothing* >> about XPath. [...] > Wow, indeed. Having to specify: > > /bar[position() >= 100 and not(position() > 200)] > > Instead of: > > /bar[100:200] > > ...certainly leaves a lot to be desired. I think we can do better for an > XML range unit. My memory is that few or none of the SIP event types that support partial updates consider the state to be divided into a sequence. Usually, it's a set of key/value pairs, where the key is a string that identifies the component of the overall state (e.g., the identifier of a particular call) and the value is some complex structure. So if you're considering partial updates, start with having a way to specify modifying the values for individual keys. Indeed, you may need little more than that in practice. Dale
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- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… worley
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Michael Toomim
- [dispatch] Fw: Re: Proposal for Per Resource Even… Rahul Gupta
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Rahul Gupta
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… worley
- Re: [dispatch] Fw: Re: Proposal for Per Resource … Michael Toomim
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Michael Toomim
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Michael Toomim
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Tim Bray
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Rahul Gupta
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Rahul Gupta
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Michael Toomim
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… worley
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Michael Toomim
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- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Michael Toomim
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… worley
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Michael Toomim
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Rahul Gupta
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Rahul Gupta
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… worley
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Rahul Gupta
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Kévin Dunglas
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Rahul Gupta
- Re: [dispatch] Proposal for Per Resource Events P… Michael Toomim
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