From nobody Thu Nov 19 20:20:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CDB3A0CD6 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 20:20:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.983 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.983 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcastmailservice.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nxlxr_XJmyVA for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 20:20:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 483FD3A07BD for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 20:20:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from resomta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.98]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id fxu4kg41jBbHHfxuOk1rpV; Fri, 20 Nov 2020 04:20:28 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcastmailservice.net; s=20180828_2048; t=1605846028; bh=q9VWFY+9TFsyC9e5COjY6D432xFU/HfFS3Cuyftj6W4=; h=Received:Received:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date: Message-ID; b=VK4FvbLbYlUtyyG/mGWvwwcN7yVDMBL4ipzrEh75/8Ip0V3MVBq6MFQKWtnfiQLVv koL2xS0+9ME9TvSBIkovnsDRvLRJlkCvgbSmuR04VUJ/dFt8qz3h++8hvWZKkZLaqc OOBzBsf+c+riu9dOF/oHg5cgm2nFBUMmf1ugez/+dl69EThKODb9pyTB/EAETUKXp7 MzzaYYgsSt2yoj8Kwk69j3ztGFL4zgFoxiy9WrwWk34grbvWpp+MwdeNP1+L787r2U REGO78p+cnEhUf9KfTTJHVuHwo0lgcuBaBVTYUjpUsw18HhR8hQPkShEUtaLPwj74X z6icVbJT+lsMA== Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4a00:430:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id fxuMksjDgLXv8fxuNk1mFl; Fri, 20 Nov 2020 04:20:27 +0000 X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=-100.00;st=legit Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 0AK4KPpL005702; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 23:20:25 -0500 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 0AK4KOln005699; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 23:20:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: David Singer Cc: dispatch@ietf.org, cullrich@immersion.com, ymuthusamy@immersion.com In-Reply-To: (singer=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 23:20:24 -0500 Message-ID: <87wnygveuv.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dispatch] Proposal to add 'haptics' as a new top-level media type - Comments welcome [Was RE: draft-muthusamy-dispatch-haptics-00.txt] X-BeenThere: dispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DISPATCH Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 04:20:31 -0000 David Singer writes: > I don't think we should mix up what's needed for sub-type > registration, with establishment of the top-level type. Yeshwant can > and should cite examples in the industry, but it's not for him to > register other people's formats, of course. As a general rule, I agree. But in practice, the best thing to drive the creation of a top-level media type is a bunch of subtypes that people *want* to see registered. And the best thing to drive that is minimally-encumbered interoperabilty. Dale