Re: [dispatch] Bron's Large Email problem

Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> Thu, 18 August 2022 01:30 UTC

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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 11:29:55 +1000
From: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com>
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2022, at 10:08, Michael Richardson wrote:
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> Having just watched DISPATCH from 2022-07-25, I want to encourage Bron and
> others to continue work on this problem.

I'm still working on it!  There's also a group at M3AAWG looking at the content-scanner implications for doing something like this.

Hoping to have a draft or three ready for more serious discussion at IETF115 :)

Bron.


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