[dispatch] INDF - Subscription Account RSS/Atom feeds: request for other people to take care of this problem

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Tue, 19 August 2025 23:40 UTC

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Hi,

My request is for the IETF to formulate a standard for feed and podcast
clients to get /one/ notification of an update for all subscription URLs.
This work has been done, I think. There are "Well Known URIs", "URI
templates", and "Webhooks". Think of products like
Patreon/Memberful/Substack etc.

I would like my Podcast client to know there is a new episode right away
(without having all clients poll at once--webhook). The current issue is
that I get an email about a new episode, but since all of the subscription
feed URLs are unique, all of those aren't polled right away.

I'm not going to waltz in and write a draft to do this one. Other people
have done most of the work. But ...could we do this? :)

How about "INDF" for "indie feed?"

thanks,
Rob