Re: [dispatch] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12: (with COMMENT)

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Mon, 03 January 2022 13:04 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Mathias Bynens <mths@google.com>
CC: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs@ietf.org>, dispatch chairs <dispatch-chairs@ietf.org>, DISPATCH WG <dispatch@ietf.org>, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>
Thread-Topic: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12: (with COMMENT)
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Thank you, Mathias, for your prompt reply.

About the TC39 point, may I suggest the text "The ECMA Technical Committee 29 (TC29), the standards body for ECMAscript, has determined..." ?

All other remarks accepted.

Regards

-éric

From: Mathias Bynens <mths@google.com>
Date: Monday, 3 January 2022 at 13:43
To: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>
Cc: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs@ietf.org>, dispatch chairs <dispatch-chairs@ietf.org>, DISPATCH WG <dispatch@ietf.org>, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>
Subject: Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12: (with COMMENT)

Thanks for taking a look, Éric. On behalf of the authors, I’ll respond to your comments inline:

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 1:16 PM Éric Vyncke via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org<mailto:noreply@ietf.org>> wrote:
Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-dispatch-javascript-mjs-12: No Objection

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Thank you for the work put into this document.

Please find below ssome non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies would be
appreciated even if only for my own education), and some nits.

Special thanks to Ben Campbell for the shepherd's write-up including the
section about the WG consensus for this update and on RFC 4329.

I hope that this helps to improve the document,

Regards,

-éric

== COMMENTS ==

-- Section 3 --

Is TC39 so well-known by the IETF community that no expansion/explanation is
required?

TC39 is the standards body in charge of ECMAScript, a.k.a. the JavaScript language. The only mention of “TC39” in the draft gives the following context:

```
   The TC39 standards body for ECMAScript has determined that media
   types are outside of their scope of work [TC39-MIME-ISSUE].
```

What would you consider to be missing? Happy to expand on this.

-- Section 5 --
This security section is pretty extensive (good thing) and I wonder whether it
is relevant to this document as it is not related to the media types themselves
but more on the scripting language itself.

Two notes:

1. The security section builds upon the one from RFC4329 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4329#section-5) which our draft aims to supersede. Removing it would be a regression.
2. I see your point — the security risks are *mostly* related to the language. IMHO the security section is still worth including, as for e.g. browser implementations, the MIME type is what determines whether a given resource is processed as a script or not. Thus, failing to respect the media types as stated (e.g. accepting additional, non-standard media types as if they were JavaScript) would constitute a security risk.

== NITS ==

-- Section 4.2 --
Suggestion, add "else" on steps 2 and 3 to be clear.

This section was inherited from RFC4329 as-is, and we’ve been hesitant to make changes to it. However, this change seems small and harmless enough, so I’ve prepared a patch here: https://github.com/linuxwolf/bmeck-ids/pull/59