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Re: [dispatch] JSON Canonicalization Scheme (JCS) Proposal

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Tue, 07 May 2019 21:36 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 14:36:07 -0700
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] JSON Canonicalization Scheme (JCS) Proposal
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On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 2:33 PM Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:

> (as DISPATCH chair)
>
> It would be helpful to hear some more voices here. Does anyone else have
> opinions? Especially people involved in those side meetings?
>

FWIW, none of this has really changed me opinion of this from Prague or
made me more enthusiastic about this work.

-Ekr


> Bret, could you offer a very high level summary of the side discussions
> from Prague?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ben.
>
> On Apr 29, 2019, at 1:44 PM, Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dispatch,
>
> During IETF 104 there were several meetings and sessions about the
> proposed JCS solution. This JCS solution defines a way to canonicalize JSON
> data to enable hash-able JSON. After listening to and working through most
> of the concerns that were raised, there seems to be some significant
> interest and use-cases for moving this work forward.
>
> We respectfully request that DISPATCH look at this work and determine
> where it would best fit in the IETF.  We would also like to request that
> DISPATCH add this to the next interim or full meeting.
>
> The current draft can be found here:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rundgren-json-canonicalization-scheme-05
>
> Further, many successful implementations for several different platforms
> as well as a public "playground" https://mobilepki.org/jws-jcs/home have
> been created to show that this not only works, but is pretty easy to
> implement.
>
> Personally I know many organizations and solutions that desperately need
> this for production.   Thank you for your consideration.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bret
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