Re: [dispatch] Improve UX in Encrypted Email (distinguish between forwarded and otherwise wrapped messages)

Bernie Hoeneisen <bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch> Tue, 13 October 2020 21:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dispatch] Improve UX in Encrypted Email (distinguish between forwarded and otherwise wrapped messages)
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Hi John

IMHO the point you make can be made to almost any addition to the email 
standard: It may be misused by the evil side.

I fail to grasp what benefit a spamer could gain by specifying whether 
an encapsulated message is a forwarded or a wrapped message.
Marking an encapsulate messaged as "forwarded" makes it even less 
likely that the user gets the content to see.
Explicitely marking an encapsulated message as "not-forwarded" does not 
make any sense, as one may as well just not encapsulate the message. There 
is no difference on whether or not it is displayed to the user.

Have I missed anything?

cheers,
  Bernie

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On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, John Levine wrote:

> In article <875z7s55xo.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com>,
> Dale R. Worley  <worley@ariadne.com> wrote:
>> What we need is a new "Content-Semantics" header for parts of multipart
>> bodies which describes the semantics of this part within the whole.
>> E.g., "contained encrypted content" or "forwarded message".
>
> But you still have the problem that you can't count on senders to
> label their messages correctly. I can promise you that if word gets
> around that mail labeled "forwarded message" has a 1% better open rate
> than otherwise, all spam will have that label.
>
> R's,
> John
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> Regards,
> John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
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