Re: [dispatch] SMTP Code for Undesirable Messages

Anton Tveretin <tveretinas@yandex.ru> Sat, 25 December 2021 23:06 UTC

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Hello Alex,
I think it is sometimes a good idea. But the problem is that spammers sometimes use this kind of feedback to check for valid addresses. For this reason, some implementers would avoid this feedback. Also, a check for spam need not complete immediately. The incoming message might be bounced later.
Sincerely yours,
Anton
 
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 17:04:46 +0000
From: "Brotman, Alex" <Alex_Brotman@comcast.com>
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Subject: [dispatch] SMTP Code for Undesirable Messages
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Hello,

I've been wondering if it may be beneficial for a mailbox provider to be able to signal back to the sender that the message is being accepted, but is undesirable based on some criteria. The idea would be that a provider may evaluate some characteristics of the message, and before issuing a "250 Ok" have already determined the message would be routed to the spam folder. Something as simple as:

255 Ok - Routing to spam folder

This would likely need some "Security Considerations" section about how informing a malicious entity may be undesirable. I'm willing to write this up as a proposed draft, though I'm not entirely sure where to direct that draft. Thank you for any advice you could provide.
 

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Alex Brotman
Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy
Comcast