Re: [dispatch] Need guidance on how to progress draft-york-dispatch-p-charge-info
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AD Sponsored .. Please This is actually an important document for endless reasons. Richard Shockey Shockey Consulting LLC Chairman of the Board SIP Forum www.shockey.us www.sipforum.org richard<at>shockey.us Skype-Linkedin-Facebook rshockey101 PSTN +1 703-593-2683 From: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 at 3:21 PM To: <dispatch@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [dispatch] Need guidance on how to progress draft-york-dispatch-p-charge-info On 6/10/15 2:06 PM, Dan York wrote: > > > > DISPATCH participants, > > > > > > > > I could use some help/guidance about how to move my now-seemingly-ancient > P-Charge-Info draft forward. The draft is at: > > > > > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-york-dispatch-p-charge-info-05 > > > > > > > > Way back in 2008, I first submitted the draft to the SIPPING WG. My goal was > simply to *document the existing usage* of the P-Charge-Info SIP header per > the then-relevant RFC 3427 so that the header could be listed in the IANA > registry of SIP parameters at: > > > > > > > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/sip-parameters/sip-parameters.xhtml#sip-parame > ters-2 > > > > > > > > My employer at the time, Voxeo, was (and still is) a strong user of the header > and encouraged me to document it so that others could use the header within > private networks. As an IETF participant and SIP advocate, I personally > wanted to document P-Charge-Info so that perhaps people could find it and use > that header instead of creating yet another private header. Tolga Asveren of > Sonus Networks joined on very early in the process because Sonus was (and > presumably still is) also actively using the header. Lots of other people > chimed in along the way. > > > > > > > > After an initial flurry of commentary and changes on the SIPPING list from > 2008-2010, there's a longer story of why it took so long... there was the RFC > 3427bis process which became RFC 5727... life and job changes... much more... > > > > > > > > Anyway, at this point in 2015 I just want to move the document along and get > it published so that the header can be registered and, quite honestly, so that > I can stop renewing the document every 6 months. Given that I still get > inquiries about this header from time to time and that it is still being used, > I feel a certain responsibility to just "get this done" rather than simply > abandoning the draft. > > > > > > > > From what I know, there are three ways I can move this forward to publication: > > > > > > > > 1. DISPATCH approval - this WG can approve the draft and send to the IESG; [1] > > > This is not what DISPATCH is designed to do. > > > > > > > > > > > 2. AD-SPONSORED - I can ask a friendly AD to help send this to the IESG; > > > This is the path I think this document should take. > > > > > > > > > > > 3. INDIVIDUAL SUBMISSION - I can send this in to the independent stream > editor. > > > You could do this. Diversion went this way to support the diversion-history-info work. I would prefer, though, that the document take path 2, and pursue publication as an IETF document. > > > > Am I correct? And if so, what would any of you suggest as the simplest path > to checking this off as done? > > > > > > > > Comments on the actual draft are of course also welcome, with the reminder > that the aim of the draft was and is to document existing usage rather than to > create a new header, etc. (Because if it was to create a new header, the "P-" > would be removed, etc.) > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > [1] And yes, I do realize there is actually a 4th path which is that DISPATCH > could "dispatch" this draft off to some other WG and I could then bring it > through *that* WG. And if that's the best path I'm glad to do that, too... I > just want to get this finished. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list > dispatch@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > _______________________________________________ dispatch mailing list dispatch@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch
- [dispatch] Need guidance on how to progress draft… Dan York
- Re: [dispatch] Need guidance on how to progress d… Robert Sparks
- Re: [dispatch] Need guidance on how to progress d… Richard Shockey
- Re: [dispatch] Need guidance on how to progress d… Mary Barnes
- Re: [dispatch] Need guidance on how to progress d… Richard Shockey
- Re: [dispatch] Need guidance on how to progress d… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [dispatch] Need guidance on how to progress d… Mary Barnes