Re: [dispatch] [Sframe] Magnus Westerlund's Block on charter-ietf-sframe-00-00: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)
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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
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Thread-Topic: [Sframe] [dispatch] Magnus Westerlund's Block on charter-ietf-sframe-00-00: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] [Sframe] Magnus Westerlund's Block on charter-ietf-sframe-00-00: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)
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On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 21:43 +0200, Sergio Garcia Murillo wrote: > On 14/09/2020 20:45, Bernard Aboba wrote: > > > > Given that we don't have a lot of deployment of frame forwarding RTP > > header extensions yet, it's probably best to avoid tying SFRAME to > > any particular design. For example, you wouldn't want a design that > > could only function with the framemarking RTP header extension or the > > Generic Frame Descriptor or the Dependency Descriptor, so that a new > > specification is needed when the N+1 frame forwarding technology comes > > along. > > > For this all points to that SFRAME WG shall not do the RTP Payload format, instead that work shall be done in AVTCORE WG. Thus, everything for SFRAME that has to do with RTP will be dealt with in AVTCORE and to my knowledge this is within the charter of AVTCORE. However, maybe the SFRAME charter should be explicit about that this shuold be noted in a paragraph in the SFRAME WG charter that the WG will collaborate on this aspect. Because I will assume that there will be some aspects that will flow from the RTP Payload format work towards the SFRAME format. Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Networks, Ericsson Research ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Mobile +46 73 0949079 Torshamnsgatan 23 | SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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