[dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combining SEC ART WIT Dispatch into one group
Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Sat, 09 May 2026 05:48 UTC
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'Dispatch' is a single word whose meaning is relatively clear and relevant. These suggestions are not words; they're strange backronyms that perpetuate the IETF's tendencies towards insider baseball. If reusing 'dispatch' is truly an issue, there are many alternatives. My local LLM suggests: - Triage - Intake - Clearinghouse I don't mind 'Triage'. Cheers, > On 9 May 2026, at 3:14 pm, Deb Cooley <debcooley1@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree with Andy on many points - having to explain what 'dispatch' means (over and over and over), avoiding the perception that every idea is appropriate for the dispatch group (vice what is done elsewhere in the IETF), and avoiding the perception of having closed secdispatch. > > The goal of this is to bring in both new work and new people. There are enough completely new participants that it warrants explanation and clarity. We need to make the process more approachable. Note: there is a wiki for the details of slide templates, and other guidance. Combining the current wikis into one for the new wg will be worked on (using many of the suggestions here). > > I do like WASDISPATCH (and WASNEW), thanks to ekr for that idea. > > Deb > Sec AD > > On Wed, May 6, 2026 at 5:28 PM Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > > I frequently have to describe what DISPATCH is to newcomers. The name-to-purpose linkage is not as intuitive as you might think. > > How often are *DISPATCH presenters completely new to the IETF? Do they also find “HOTRFC” confusing? Do you think SAWDISPATCH will reduce the amount of explanations you have to do? > > > And keeping DISPATCH while closing SECDISPATCH could give the impression that SECDISPATCH is going away, not being merged. > > Easily fixed by tweaking the “closed” message in the datatracker, or adding a resource that redirects. > > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list -- dispatch@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to dispatch-leave@ietf.org > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list -- dispatch@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to dispatch-leave@ietf.org -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/
- [dispatch] Officially combining SEC ART WIT Dispa… Andy Newton
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Officially combining… Paul Wouters
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Salz, Rich
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Deb Cooley
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Officially combining… Cullen Fluffy Jennings
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Officially combining… Eric Rescorla
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Officially combining… Mark Nottingham
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Officially combining… Andy Newton
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Officially combining… Mark Nottingham
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Officially combining… Paul Hoffman
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Salz, Rich
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Michael Richardson
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Tim Bray
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Re: Re: Official… Eric Rescorla
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Martin J. Dürst
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Andy Newton
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Salz, Rich
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Deb Cooley
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Mark Nottingham
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Michael Richardson
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Re: Officially c… Andrew Campling
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Andy Newton
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Ted Hardie
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Andy Newton
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Re: Re: Official… Paul Wouters
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Re: Re: Official… John C Klensin
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Re: Re: Official… Salz, Rich
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Officially combining… Martin Thomson
- [dispatch] Re: Officially combining SEC ART WIT D… Simon Josefsson
- [dispatch] Re: Officially combining SEC ART WIT D… Andy Newton
- [dispatch] Re: Officially combining SEC ART WIT D… Jim Fenton
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Eric Rescorla
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Eric Rescorla
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… Pete Resnick
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Officially combi… John C Klensin
- [dispatch] Re: [Secdispatch] Re: Re: Re: Official… Michael Richardson