[dispatch] Securing Ancillary Data for Communicating with Devices in the Network (SADCDN)
Matt Joras <matt.joras@gmail.com> Tue, 11 July 2023 18:16 UTC
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Subject: [dispatch] Securing Ancillary Data for Communicating with Devices in the Network (SADCDN)
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Hello all, (quic and tsvwg on bcc as interested parties) We will be presenting the SADCDN draft[1] during DISPATCH at IETF 117 and wanted to start some mailing list discussion prior. We have also scheduled a side meeting on Tuesday at 18:00 for anyone interested. The document primarily focuses on the problem space, but also has a sketch of what one solution might look like. That problem is, in brief, establishing a secure, entirely in-band, communication channel between devices in the network and content endpoints for exchanging certain limited classes of information. We are hoping to get dispatch feedback on how and if this should be worked on at the IETF. This work has similarities to previous and ongoing IETF work as is noted in the draft. Best, Matt Joras [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-joras-sadcdn/01/
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- Re: [dispatch] [Masque] Securing Ancillary Data f… Ian Swett
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