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Re: [Diversity] early mentoring for /any/ draft (was - Re: [Mentoring-coordinators] Participation in active IETF work)

Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Wed, 20 April 2016 15:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Diversity] early mentoring for /any/ draft (was - Re: [Mentoring-coordinators] Participation in active IETF work)
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Hi Nalini,

I agree with you, but I will add that there are many people want to
participate in IDs but there are problems with some of the WG culture, no
secret. So The is a language of argument and discussion that new people may
not get use to, which is needed in such WG culture.

AB

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 6:52 PM, <nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com> wrote:

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> On 4/19/2016 9:35 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
> >> think you are right on all counts.  I have seen some very horrible prose
> >> from native English speakers.
> >>
> >> But, the mentoring program is not just for non-native English speakers.
> >>  It is for all IETFers.
>
> >There is an appealingly subversive possibility in this:  Getting
> >"outside" people to review work much earlier in its lifecycle.  We have
> >long lamented the fact that we do reviews late in the cycle, after a
> >great deal of energy has been expended and people have become
> >entrenched.  Getting others to review the work early it its development
> >could do considerably more than improve its writing...
>
> Indeed.
>
> The mentoring initiative I want to start after Berlin is for people to
> solicit a team to work with them to co-author a draft.  That is, person x
> has an idea (but no draft), he / she gets 5 minutes & 2 foils to present
> the idea in a webinar.   Others on the webinar ask questions for another
> 5-10 minutes.   Then, if people would like, they can tell person x that
> they would be interested in being a co-author.
>
> If person x gets no takers as far as co-authors, he / she may wish to draw
> the inevitable conclusion.
>
> Of course, if person x feels that they have not fairly represented
> themselves, they can have a second chance.  But, after the second time, and
> still no takers ....
>
> BTW, no third chances.
>
> Nalini
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