Re: [dix] DRAFT: WAE BOF minutes

"Ben Laurie" <benl@google.com> Wed, 19 July 2006 11:01 UTC

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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:01:19 +0100
From: Ben Laurie <benl@google.com>
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On 7/18/06, Jeffrey Altman <jaltman@secure-endpoints.com> wrote:
> Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > Jeffrey Altman <jaltman@secure-endpoints.com> writes:
> >
> >> Eric Rescorla wrote:
> >>> Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com> writes:
> >>>> Come to think of it, TLS too could use the same approach to make session
> >>>> resumption stateless.  That would be nice, very nice, if we can get it.
> >>> Something like this?
> >>>
> >>> 4507 Transport Layer Security (TLS) Session Resumption without
> >>>      Server-Side State. J. Salowey, H. Zhou, P. Eronen, H. Tschofenig. May
> >>>      2006.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Ekr
> >> Do the the browser vendors know about this RFC?
> >>
> >> Do Apache and Microsoft have any intention of implementing it?
> >
> > Sorry, don't know the answer to either question.
> >
> > -Ekr
>
> We need to do a better job of promoting our protocols.

I'd note that most of the work of supporting these things has to be
done in OpenSSL, and unlike Apache, OpenSSL does not have a large
funded development community.

Expecting volunteers to rush to implement every cute TLS feature is
asking a lot. The way to make this happen is to find money for OpenSSL
development.

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