Re: [DLNEX] [Detnet] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: DLNEX -- Discussion of reliable and deterministic latency attributes
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Subject: Re: [DLNEX] [Detnet] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: DLNEX -- Discussion of reliable and deterministic latency attributes
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Hi Alia, Overlap looks likely. I hope that when it does occur, you send folks over here to contribute -- additional input / WG participation would be great! (For folks not familiar with DetNet, check out our charter at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/detnet/charter/) I expect we'll have some good data plane centric discussions at this meeting, for those who may be interested (there's even still time to submit related drafts!) Cheers, Lou DetNet Co-chair On 10/19/2016 11:46 AM, Alia Atlas wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > The discussion intended on dlnex, a non-WG mailing list, is, I think, > broader - spanning the range of communications between upper layer > applications and the network. It is not clear yet what work might > develop. Be sure that I will be watching for any specific overlap > with DetNet. > > I feel that it is useful to make it easy for groups to have a list to > brainstorm about their ideas before work is mature enough to consider > for standardization. > > Regards, > Alia > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Patrick Wetterwald (pwetterw) > <pwetterw@cisco.com <mailto:pwetterw@cisco.com>> wrote: > > Can someone explain me why this mailing list is created outside of > DetNet? > > This sounds like a subset of Detnet no? > > Thanks, > > Patrick > > > On 19/10/2016, 07:56, "detnet on behalf of Pascal Thubert > (pthubert)" <detnet-bounces@ietf.org > <mailto:detnet-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of pthubert@cisco.com > <mailto:pthubert@cisco.com>> wrote: > > From: IETF-Announce [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org > <mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of IETF Secretariat > Sent: mardi 18 octobre 2016 22:36 > To: IETF Announcement List <ietf-announce@ietf.org > <mailto:ietf-announce@ietf.org>> > Cc: matthew.bocci@nokia.com <mailto:matthew.bocci@nokia.com>; > dlnex@ietf.org <mailto:dlnex@ietf.org>; linda.dunbar@huawei.com > <mailto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com> > Subject: New Non-WG Mailing List: DLNEX -- Discussion of > reliable and deterministic latency attributes > > > A new IETF non-working group email list has been created. > > List address:dlnex@ietf.org <mailto:address%3Adlnex@ietf.org> > Archive: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=dlnex > <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=dlnex> > To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dlnex > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dlnex> > > Purpose: > DLNEX is to discuss various latency characteristics that can > be exposed by network elements or segments and to explore if there > are any latency related attributes that can be utilized by upper > layer. For example, could there be latency exposure that upper > layer can utilize to plan how to distribute their content to the > right edges to achieve optimal user experience? Or something used > by Interactive AR controller to optimize their services? Is there > any value gained by upper layer expressing that they would rather > have fixed latency than losing packets? > > The discussion is to answer questions like: are there any > effective interaction/coordination between upper layer and lower > layer to achieve more efficient optimization for latency sensitive > services? > > This discussion group is also a place to showcase the state of > the arts in latency optimized switching architecture and interface > designs, as the feasibility exercise for achieving reliable and > deterministic latency through a network element or a segment. > Those latency exposures are the foundation for (future) latency > optimized control plane. > > > For additional information, please contact the list > administrators. > > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org <mailto:detnet@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet> > > > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org <mailto:detnet@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > detnet mailing list > detnet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet
- [DLNEX] New Non-WG Mailing List: DLNEX -- Discuss… IETF Secretariat
- Re: [DLNEX] [Detnet] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List:… Patrick Wetterwald (pwetterw)
- Re: [DLNEX] [Detnet] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List:… Alia Atlas
- Re: [DLNEX] [Detnet] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List:… Lou Berger
- Re: [DLNEX] [Detnet] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List:… Pat Thaler
- Re: [DLNEX] [Detnet] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List:… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [DLNEX] [Detnet] FW: New Non-WG Mailing List:… Lou Berger
- [DLNEX] Use cases (was: Re: [Detnet] FW: New Non-… Lou Berger