Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating reporting and policy

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Thu, 30 May 2019 18:13 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 11:13:37 -0700
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating reporting and policy
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On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:13 AM John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> As far as I can tell your proposal to break the document in two has
> gotten no support at all.  Can we stop now?
>

What's on topic for the group and what isn't is the purview of the
co-chairs and the charter.  Let's please not stifle discussions before they
die on their own absent chair action to the contrary.

-MSK, from the floor