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Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601

Seth Blank <seth@sethblank.com> Tue, 31 March 2020 16:28 UTC

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From: Seth Blank <seth@sethblank.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 09:28:26 -0700
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To: "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Definition of "value" in RFC8601
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:56 AM Kurt Andersen (b) <kboth@drkurt.com> wrote:

>  I think that John's suggestion (ABNF: " authserv-id = domain-name ")
> makes the most sense and the fewest contortions.
>

(as an individual)

I've definitely seen non domain-name based authserv-ids, but they are rare
and tend to be from opendmarc. We can certainly fix that in opendmarc.

I do think John's suggestion is the most straightforward, and I'm for it,
but it does constitute a breaking change.

Seth

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