Re: [dmarc-ietf] Introduction context was: Re: Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-dmarc-psd

Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com> Sat, 13 July 2019 02:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Introduction context was: Re: Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-dmarc-psd
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On Friday, July 12, 2019 1:26:40 PM EDT Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 5:21:14 PM EDT Seth Blank wrote:
> > As Secretary, there are three items that have not yet reached consensus
> > that must be resolved during WGLC:
> > 
> > 1. What further context is needed in the introduction
> 
> The only comment on this so far during WGLC is that it is clear as is.
> 
> As the document author, this is one I have a hard time assessing.  It's
> clear to me, but I know what I meant when I wrote it.  If anyone is still
> concerned about this issue, I would strong encourage you to provide
> suggested text.
> 
> I think the WG should be pretty open to accepting such changes (as long as
> they are technically accurate).  Even if it makes the document a bit longer,
> I think clarity is worth it.
> 
> Standing by for inputs/feedback.

I think Tim's suggestions are a good response to this issue:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/e7aDFcxDdJPI2Sj4jMqGLmDhmKc

Unless someone else has other opinions (I know Kurt brought some things up 
that this doesn't cover, but we should address those separately), I think 
these changes should be applied.

Scott K