Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy for the Author Domain - dmarcbis-06
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy for the Author
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On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 12:22:57 PM EDT John R Levine wrote: > > Scott took the time to define PSDs and PSOs in RFC 9091, restated in > > Sections 3.2.8 and 3.2.9 of the current draft. Since the definitions of > > Organizational Domain (both the current 3.2.7 an my proposed change) > > require PSD + 1, a PSD has to be a proper subdomain of another PSD in > > order to admin an Organizational Domain itself. > > I don't agree, but whatever. > > [ long list of PSDs that send and receive mail ] > > > _dmarc.ac.me TXT "v=DMARC1; p=quarantine; adkim=r; aspf=r; fo=0; pct=100; > > rua=mailto:dmarc@ac.me" ac.me mail is handled by 10 mail.ac.me. > > ac.me TXT "v=spf1 mx ip4:89.188.43.10 ip6:2a02:4280:0:200:89:188:43:10 > > -all" > > > > All of the above admit no org domain. > > If I have a message from bob@ac.me and it has valid SPF of mail.ac.me, is > that aligned? Why or why not? I think for a PSD that sends mail, the current definitions would require Mail >From for SPF or d= for DKIM to be the same because they wouldn't end up having the same org domain. It might be simple enough to say to ignore psd=y or a lower level psd=n if the 5322.From has a domain with psd=y (they can always set strict alignment if they don't want lower level stuff to match). Scott K
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- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Scott Kitterman
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- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
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- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Barry Leiba
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
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- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Todd Herr
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John Levine
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- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] PSD vs org, 5.5.4. Publish a DMA… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] PSD vs org, 5.5.4. Publish a DMA… John Levine