Return-Path: X-Original-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dmarc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE4E1A0019 for ; Sat, 16 May 2015 11:11:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.522 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_95=3, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YdGG7J_bnPIA for ; Sat, 16 May 2015 11:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-x230.google.com (mail-ie0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E50A1A0007 for ; Sat, 16 May 2015 11:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iesa3 with SMTP id a3so57106777ies.2 for ; Sat, 16 May 2015 11:11:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drkurt.com; s=20130612; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=LGqHzDXMaJH2Dn+wWgfL9nMKFHNbbkBMx532s4H0sSI=; b=BoXfos5JYOe4HeXMBTSwnDFZJfAV6L0Zj+dfkHH37mG4Ep6Yh3q08Cl6GiJx4/ACUB R76WVsDV5VEqqKcd7zIDu02ya09tlOsjvAnuFVF2PYYPI7EXKmbLllkgp2sNj0AjmfqE 4K1sf+QurxdFWAJWiHWWDxTrmJtYiNCtEoa84= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LGqHzDXMaJH2Dn+wWgfL9nMKFHNbbkBMx532s4H0sSI=; b=Ym8rDSkClpyznLuVh0xpExFedh90dN301MV83z5emldX1dmvN5a5Q25iKdtg0J3sS/ TpsSdZqNGJ79FlLKx6I6C5nUNdwVqMjZ+y5E+dCwMY1qY9CpRxZ67PFStH7L68E897ya 4iOmELFmvyxWgighEscA3iIes6fivJZL5U0GB9Dcws2PuJQfsxJiTyuBgrJGz95Kvsuh cNAchoqBdkuiJ5PrcG93cyJSqqcKvIjOuR+4Dm2ZVXM8iPXxq33uAXgUpviOuM1W+mWe bQoq+Gih4K0ILtLlxJT4Z757GJjzjgzAqumI+2BRwg08Waf5D8/ejMi+yXCURYK7zBLp WFzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmvVAC71OcIjKLXJYDx0bCfEp9ElUNY487EH0JO5jGkxy6vBqRPSTiC2BnZ5fNdJ+C93Veu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.8.144 with SMTP id h16mr20933379ioi.38.1431799899828; Sat, 16 May 2015 11:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kurta@drkurt.com Received: by 10.36.3.148 with HTTP; Sat, 16 May 2015 11:11:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8A9DBFEF-2202-412C-B067-1B594DC4E05F@isdg.net> References: <555656FC.5010609@dcrocker.net> <55567634.1060305@isdg.net> <8A9DBFEF-2202-412C-B067-1B594DC4E05F@isdg.net> Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 08:11:39 -1000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: OoPr8WQPPgUcWyHcpgs_KprRxmQ Message-ID: From: "Kurt Andersen (b)" To: "dmarc@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f91566b4ab0051636e40f Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Looking for degrees of freedom with Intermediaries - Effort and Policy X-BeenThere: dmarc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Compliance \(DMARC\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 18:11:42 -0000 --001a113f91566b4ab0051636e40f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On May 15, 2015 2:59 PM, "Hector Santos" wrote: > > > On May 15, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Terry Zink > wrote: > > > With all due respect to the amazing abilities of this list to bikeshed, could we try to return this particular thread to the question(s) raised by Dave? To wit: It might be helpful to consider /basic types/ of changes that are > reasonable/unreasonable for intermediaries, distinct from how they might > fit into an entire solution. > --Kurt Andersen --001a113f91566b4ab0051636e40f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On May 15, 2015 2:59 PM, "= Hector Santos" <hsantos@isdg.net> wrote:

> On May 15, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Terry Zink <tzink@exchange.microsoft.com>= ; wrote:
>

With all due respect to the amazin= g abilities of this list to bikeshed, could we try to return this particula= r thread to the question(s) raised by Dave? To wit:

It might be helpful to consider /basic ty= pes/ of changes that are reasonable/unreasonable for intermediaries, distin= ct from how they might fit into an entire solution.
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--Kurt Andersen
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