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Re: [dmarc-ietf] p=quarantine

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Mon, 14 December 2020 18:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] p=quarantine
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On 12/14/2020 10:00 AM, Michael Thomas wrote:
> When we tell you it's not a problem,

Except that the telling was by you.  Alone.

And you've yet to respond to the observable fact that receivers have 
been ignoring the directive language.

Or that many folk misunderstand the semantics of DKIM, thinking it means 
that message authorship is validated.

Or...

d/

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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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