Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk
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On Wednesday, March 23, 2022 6:59:08 AM EDT Alessandro Vesely wrote: > Hm... > > On Wed 23/Mar/2022 03:08:35 +0100 Douglas Foster wrote: > > During my ruminations last night, I gained some clarity around that > > question and wanted to highlight those conclusions. They simplify the > > alignment search significantly: > > > > - If the common substring is shorter than the Organizational Domain, then > > the names are not aligned and the candidate domain can be ignored. > > > > - Otherwise, if any candidate domain is a parent of (or equal to) the FROM > > domain, then and we have alignment and DMARC PASS. The secondary tree > > walk is not needed and no further evaluation is required. > > > > - If several candidate names are child domains of the FROM address, then > > only the shortest string needs to be evaluated with a secondary tree > > walk. If it is aligned, further evaluation is not required. If it is > > not aligned because of an organizational boundary, all other child > > domains are also excluded. > That and the deeper-than-5 optimization Doug posted on a separate message. > > > I know the document is already longish. However, collecting these > observations in an appendix may be helpful for developers, and maybe also > for general understanding of the intricacies involved in the tree walk, > including proper usage of the psd= flag. I think we do need to add some additional clarity, which I plan to draft, but let's not go overboard. We are trying to describe a protocol, not a implementation specification. So far, in my experience, the extra code required to address short cuts like this is not justified by the improved 'efficiency'. I don't think these need to be in the document. Scott K
- [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dmarcbi… internet-drafts
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Scott Kitterman
- [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy for th… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Barry Leiba
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Todd Herr
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] PSD vs org, 5.5.4. Publish a DMA… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] PSD vs org, 5.5.4. Publish a DMA… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] PSD vs org, 5.5.4. Publish a DMA… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] PSD vs org, 5.5.4. Publish a DMA… John Levine