Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: what is DMARC ?
"John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Tue, 28 May 2019 15:22 UTC
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 11:22:11 -0400
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From: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: what is DMARC ?
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>> Deploying DMARC seems to mean any subset of these: >> >> 1a. Publish a DMARC record >> 1b. Publish a DMARC record with a restrictive policy >> 2a. Evaluate DMARC status of incoming messages >> 2b. Use that status to manage message disposition >> 3. Collect reports >> 4a. Send aggregate reports >> 4b. Send failure reports > > > Nice one! That analysis should make it to some implementation guide. I'd > suggest an addition, though: > > 3a. Receive and possibly read records > 3b. Collect them As far as DMARC is concerned, once you've published rua or ruf and receive the reports, DMARC is done. Some people just put them in a mailbox, some pick out basic bits and put them in a database, some do elaborate analyses, but none of that has anything to do with DMARC compliance. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Jim Fenton
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Hector Santos
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Peter M. Goldstein
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Dotzero
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Jim Fenton
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Brandon Long
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Luis Muñoz
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Jim Fenton
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: what is DMARC ? John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: what is DMARC ? Jim Fenton
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: what is DMARC ? John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: what is DMARC ? Dotzero
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: what is DMARC ? John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Jim Fenton
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Dilyan Palauzov
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Jim Fenton
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Jim Fenton
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: what is DMARC ? Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: what is DMARC ? John R. Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Jim Fenton
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Jim Fenton
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Hector Santos
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis issue: Separating repor… Tim Draegen