Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC forensic reports (ruf=) and privacy

"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Sat, 26 January 2019 23:29 UTC

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From: "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 13:29:36 -1000
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To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC forensic reports (ruf=) and privacy
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On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 12:38 PM John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> In article <ad02c03115cebe042ba0c6f815b5e98cec0398ae.camel@aegee.org> you
> write:
> >reiterating over the arguments against sending reports to the ruf= …dmarc
> address, the first provided reason was, that
> >such report will not match the expectations of the users.
>
> I'm pretty sure that the people you think you are arguing with are not
> on this mailing list.
>

Nor on any of the other IETF lists :-)

--Kurt