Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy for the Author Domain - dmarcbis-06
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy for the Author
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It appears that Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com> said: >I'd suggest we change the first point in the note for 4.8. > > * The RFC5322.From domain and the RFC5321.MailFrom domain (if SPF > authenticated), and/or the DKIM d= domain (if present and > authenticated) are all the same and that domain has a DMARC record. > In this case, this common domain is treated as the Organizational > Domain. >Adding "and that domain has a DMARC record" as a condition for not doing the >tree walk should be sufficient. That should work. >For the second point, I think that's accurate, but I don't really think we >need to standardize the optimization. If I'm using an async DNS resolver, I >would implement firing off all the necessary queries and then evaluating them >once I have the answer. Good point. "Never mind." R's, John
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- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Scott Kitterman
- [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy for th… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Douglas Foster
- [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-dma… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Barry Leiba
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Douglas Foster
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ruminating the tree walk Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Todd Herr
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] PSD vs org, 5.5.4. Publish a DMA… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] PSD vs org, 5.5.4. Publish a DMA… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] 5.5.4. Publish a DMARC Policy fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] PSD vs org, 5.5.4. Publish a DMA… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] PSD vs org, 5.5.4. Publish a DMA… John Levine